lol…No problem Marcel…Just glad you understand it…PUTS you way ahead of the CURVE when you take the time to actually learn something…The moment we STOP learning is the time to retire.
And yes…I know plenty of TOP NOTCH electricians who passed their exams and can’t even calculate a load for a Residence properly…scary !
That’s just it though. You aren’t. The example states that it is a 15amp receptacle, and a 20amp circuit.
So it’s the opposite of what you just stated.
Like the others have said, you are running 15amps through the 20amp circuit, or at most 20amps, which it IS rated for.
I really have to say thank you to a couple of the guys on here for taking me seriously and not trying to discourage me or belittle me. I really do appreciate it.
It can be disheartening to be on here and try to learn something, and start to become afraid to post because of the flack.
So thank you for the help and you are bigger men than some around here.
God bless,
Wendy
Wendy,
The allowance is their…the understanding is on the 15 AMP circuit you can’t run the risk of exceeding the rating more so of the wire…now on a 20A circuit it is not a issue because the wire itself can handle the 15A and the 20A so the NEC has said it is fine to do so…Simply reflects this in the rating chart shown in a previous post…Lord knows I dont agree with 100% of the NEC…it is not perfect dispite what others in my field may CLAIM is it…that is why it changes ever few years.
You are confused simply because you are letting the 15A consume the thought…ponder it a bit…it will come to you…
I thought it was a 20amp circuit, and a 15amp receptacle?:shock:
If you have 15 amp recep’s on a 20 amp breaker call it out.
Todd Allen
Wendy, was your last post a question or statement. Paul & Brian should have you straight by now. 15 amp recepticals on a 20 amp circuit is legal so there is nothing to call out. Kitchen and dinning room circuits that are 20 amp may have 15 amp recepticals unless it is a dedicated circuit with only one receptical then it must be a 20 amp receptical. All clearly spelled out in the NEC (National Electric Code).
Hmmmmm.
Seems I saw that in someone else’s post somewhere in this thread. 
lol…NO wait…don’t tell me I contra"DICKED" myself RRAY…thehehe…
Wendy…again…a 15A receptacle on a 15 A ( 14AWG ) circuit MUST use a 15A rated receptacle…BUT the NEC allows on a 20A Circuit ( 12 AWG ) to use a 15A or 20A receptacle…lol…Just accept it and relish it…lol…
If it is a 20A circuit dedicated to a “SINGLE” receptacle ( not duplex…their is a difference )…then it would have to be a 20A rated receptacle…a 15A would not be allowed…has to do with more than (1) receptacle…
Trust me…if you have a NEC handy and my opinion is every HI should have one…if for just a good read…please read 210.21(B)(3) and it will become more clear…you are trying to get in to the “TECHNICAL” and “PHYSICAL” of how on EARTH can you place a 15A on a 20A circuit…DONT GO THERE…the NEC says it is fine and the local AHJ’s usually agree…
I have lost my DRIVE today with working on a roof to explain it anymore…thehehehe.sorry
Paul, I’ll try and change the subject…
Is Jerry holding a glass of Campari…
OMG…Don’t do that to me DALE…lol…It took me 2 weeks to let that picture DIE…
Actually he is holding a SCHLITZ…and we are holding hands behind our backs…we are tight like that…
P.S. I am kidding about the SCHLITZ and holding hands…
Actually he has me in a “HOLY” CHICKEN WING
Well god bless him anyway…
He looks like you just told him his 20 amp. receptacles were fine!..
That’s what I was trying to say Paul…aaaaaaargh…
Please return to your regularly scheduled hand-holding.
lol…gosh let that picture die…I will be haunted by Dale posting it everywhere…
No need, I have been known to piss off the Pope on Easter
Anyway I was just a tad confused because in my own way I was agreeing with you, even if it didn’t seem so at the time.
I got ya Brother…I think I felt where ya were coming from…
I’m not offended Joe. Easter or not.
I sure stirred up a can of worms with this post. Thanks for all answears everyone.
Someone mentioned earlier about the HI’s reputation out in the field. Maybe this is a good thread to show some that PERSONAL methods are not necessarily code requirements. If some choose to install or like more than what the code requires that is fine, but do not push it to a client.
I would like to explain a little about this topic.
The NEC is part of a very large industry, and it is a cog in the mechanism that makes all of this work.
A 15 amp receptacle by code is permitted on a 20 amp circuit, even if one personally does not like it. They have been installed in this manner for a very long time without incident.
The NEC permits this, because NECA, NEMA, ANSI, and UL have provided information that came as the result of exhaustive testing.
The 15 ampere rated receptacle has a “face” with the 15 ampere configuration. But the “guts” of the device can handle 20 ampere current flow.
Read the box next time you see one for a 15 ampere rated GFCI device. You will see it says that it can handle a 20 ampere flow of current, it is the same as a regular 15 ampere device.
That is the reason the NEC permits the 15 ampere device on a 20 ampere circuit.
One other thing to help you relieve your anxieties.
The OVERCURRENT portion of a circuit is what most here are concerned with.
Lets not forget that the 20 OCPD will still trip on a ground fault of a 15 ampere rated receptacle provided all is installed properly… the NEC assumes all wiring is correct as it applies to the code requirements. We do not sit and worry about what ifs, or we would not be going to work tomorrow.