# 61-165 SureTest Circuit Analyzer

**URL:** <https://forum.nachi.org/t/61-165-suretest-circuit-analyzer/123005>\
**Category:** Electrical Inspections\
**Created:** [March 28, 2018, 10:25pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/61-165-suretest-circuit-analyzer/123005 "2018-03-28T22:25:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 2\
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**Author:** ![sveith](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/sveith/32/183840_2.png) [@sveith](https://forum.nachi.org/u/sveith)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2018, 10:25pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/61-165-suretest-circuit-analyzer/123005/1 "2018-03-28T22:25:59Z")

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I may be a little late to the show, however, I just wanted to pass information about 61-165 SureTest Circuit Analyzer. I have been inspecting new builds and AFCI does not test with the analyzer.

I have attached an email from IDEAL.

"The 61-165 has discontinued around 5 years ago.

It will not trip AFCI breakers newer than the last 5 years at least. This was not a design flaw, but rather an issue with AFCI manufacturers altering their designs frequently in order to defeat AFCI testing tools in general.

Regards,

Tim Schulz  
Customer Service Coordinator

IDEAL Customer Service  
800-435-0705  
[contactus@idealindustries.com](mailto:contactus@idealindustries.com)

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**Author:** ![cevans](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/cevans/32/244194_2.png) [@cevans](https://forum.nachi.org/u/cevans)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2018, 10:33pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/61-165-suretest-circuit-analyzer/123005/2 "2018-03-28T22:33:38Z")

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Yes.

You should not use any tester other than the on-board test button for AFCI testing.