# Another Fine Job done **URL:** \ **Category:** Electrical Inspections\ **Created:** [January 29, 2014, 9:48pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/another-fine-job-done/84080 "2014-01-29T21:48:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![wwilson3](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/wwilson3/32/58197_2.png) [@wwilson3](https://forum.nachi.org/u/wwilson3)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2014, 9:48pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/another-fine-job-done/84080/1 "2014-01-29T21:48:18Z")
It been one of those ( here is your sign day )lol ![PC300068e.jpg](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/original/3X/d/e/de518ff6bc2d2f264996092500299351978c708e.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![rlewis5](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/rlewis5/32/337040_2.png) [@rlewis5](https://forum.nachi.org/u/rlewis5)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2014, 10:38pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/another-fine-job-done/84080/2 "2014-01-29T22:38:02Z")
It looks like spaghetti , but where are the critical issue? Other than a few doubles . I’ll look again. Roy Lewis ---
**Author:** ![rlewis5](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/rlewis5/32/337040_2.png) [@rlewis5](https://forum.nachi.org/u/rlewis5)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2014, 10:45pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/another-fine-job-done/84080/3 "2014-01-29T22:45:28Z")
I’ve been pondering this. This service sub had 5- 15’s, 2- 20’s and a double 30 breakers. It just doesn’t seem correct. But haven’t had time to check it out . However , Those feeds look like #8 to me. ![DSCN0187.jpg](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/original/3X/1/3/1332af082bde9daedd7ef1df25c3e65e5e24dbea.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![rhensel](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/rhensel/32/283_2.png) [@rhensel](https://forum.nachi.org/u/rhensel)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2014, 2:11am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/another-fine-job-done/84080/4 "2014-01-30T02:11:30Z")
I thought it was a Ground and Neutral on the same lug… ---
**Author:** ![tsmith8](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/tsmith8/32/173769_2.png) [@tsmith8](https://forum.nachi.org/u/tsmith8)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2014, 2:48am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/another-fine-job-done/84080/5 "2014-01-30T02:48:22Z")
> [@rhensel](#): > > I thought it was a Ground and Neutral on the same lug… That’s is what I see. ---
**Author:** ![wwilson3](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/wwilson3/32/58197_2.png) [@wwilson3](https://forum.nachi.org/u/wwilson3)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2014, 12:27pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/another-fine-job-done/84080/6 "2014-01-30T12:27:18Z")
Yes i was venting lolol why do they insist sticking the under the main lug ---
**Author:** ![rcooke](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/rcooke/32/57038_2.png) [@rcooke](https://forum.nachi.org/u/rcooke)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2014, 1:05pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/another-fine-job-done/84080/7 "2014-01-30T13:05:49Z")
> [@rlewis5](#): > > I’ve been pondering this. > This service sub had 5- 15’s, 2- 20’s and a double 30 breakers. > It just doesn’t seem correct. But haven’t had time to check it out . > However , Those feeds look like #8 to me. **WOW!!!** Its Magic , they have 15 white wires from 8 breakers . they17 bare small grounds and various large grounds and white wires too . ---
**Author:** ![rmeier2](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/rmeier2/32/59909_2.png) [@rmeier2](https://forum.nachi.org/u/rmeier2)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2014, 9:39pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/another-fine-job-done/84080/8 "2014-01-30T21:39:56Z")
> [@rlewis5](#): > > I’ve been pondering this. > This service sub had 5- 15’s, 2- 20’s and a double 30 breakers. > It just doesn’t seem correct. But haven’t had time to check it out . > However , Those feeds look like #8 to me. > [@rcooke](#): > > **WOW!!!** > Its Magic , > they have 15 white wires from 8 breakers . > they17 bare small grounds and > various large grounds and white wires too . How can you tell? Is that from photo #1 or #2? ---
**Author:** ![rlewis5](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/rlewis5/32/337040_2.png) [@rlewis5](https://forum.nachi.org/u/rlewis5)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2014, 1:30am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/another-fine-job-done/84080/9 "2014-01-31T01:30:16Z")
Here is a complete pic. The electrical inspector passed it two day ago. ![E2Sub2.jpg](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/original/3X/7/3/73d8c0f79e1f85025c482e540687f786454c7f1c.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![dhays](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/dhays/32/58202_2.png) [@dhays](https://forum.nachi.org/u/dhays)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2014, 5:01am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/another-fine-job-done/84080/10 "2014-01-31T05:01:08Z")
> [@rlewis5](#): > > Here is a complete pic. The electrical inspector passed it two day ago. So what’s the problem? You’re not adding up the breakers are you? That’s not how load calculations work. ---
**Author:** ![dduffy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/dduffy/32/554_2.png) [@dduffy](https://forum.nachi.org/u/dduffy)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2014, 5:32am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/another-fine-job-done/84080/11 "2014-01-31T05:32:04Z")
> [@wwilson3](#): > > It been one of those ( here is your sign day )lol I see one of those a week, too…its not just limited to that side of the Mississippi…😛 ---
**Author:** ![rlewis5](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/rlewis5/32/337040_2.png) [@rlewis5](https://forum.nachi.org/u/rlewis5)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2014, 12:21pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/another-fine-job-done/84080/12 "2014-01-31T12:21:57Z")
> [@dhays](#): > > So what’s the problem? You’re not adding up the breakers are you? That’s not how load calculations work. No problem. I would have used a larger feed. But , that#8 is adequate for that sub. It just look small when I first looked at it. ---
**Author:** ![wwilson3](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/wwilson3/32/58197_2.png) [@wwilson3](https://forum.nachi.org/u/wwilson3)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2014, 12:35pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/another-fine-job-done/84080/13 "2014-01-31T12:35:50Z")
> [@dduffy](#): > > I see one of those a week, too…its not just limited to that side of the Mississippi…😛 Yes Dale it is a git er done moment 2 or 3 times a week . I was just getting tried of the complaining when we write it up. The old it has been like that for years routine. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![kmcgrath](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/kmcgrath/32/261823_2.png) [@kmcgrath](https://forum.nachi.org/u/kmcgrath)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2014, 4:12pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/another-fine-job-done/84080/14 "2014-02-02T16:12:27Z")
I do most all home inspections for the police officers of the Toledo OH dept here is a 3000 sq ft home I performed an inspection on yesterday . It’s a lil 100 amp panel with more issues than I care to address… How do you like the Main lugs ? They decided to feed a 60 amp sub in the garage with it … Looks like she’s been damn close to combustion already . two double taps in breakers as well, grounds and neutrals are all jammed together trippled up and plenty of loose electrodes in that bus as well… She got a big RED note, and a recommendation for a new 200 amp installed asap ! ![1-DSC05791.jpg](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/original/3X/0/1/01313dd07550bf53df67f5e2afaeb6742e832842.jpeg) ![1-DSC05795.jpg](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/original/3X/b/0/b0a650a43e9154d82c6d7ec27767daa13fb86091.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![kmcgrath](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/kmcgrath/32/261823_2.png) [@kmcgrath](https://forum.nachi.org/u/kmcgrath)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2014, 6:26pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/another-fine-job-done/84080/15 "2014-02-02T18:26:53Z")
Look closely ! It’s a quad Tapped Breaker ! ![1-DSC05794.jpg](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/original/3X/b/a/bad2bd7bf44caf7705c2a4d36581f7bf2009336b.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![dduffy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/dduffy/32/554_2.png) [@dduffy](https://forum.nachi.org/u/dduffy)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2014, 4:30am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/another-fine-job-done/84080/16 "2014-02-03T04:30:48Z")
> [@kmcgrath](#): > > I do most all home inspections for the police officers of the Toledo OH dept > here is a 3000 sq ft home I performed an inspection on yesterday . > > It’s a lil 100 amp panel with more issues than I care to address… > How do you like the Main lugs ? > They decided to feed a 60 amp sub in the garage with it … > Looks like she’s been damn close to combustion already . > > two double taps in breakers as well, grounds and neutrals are all jammed together trippled up and plenty of loose electrodes in that bus as well… > > She got a big RED note, and a recommendation for a new 200 amp installed asap ! I admit I’ve not seen anything remotely close to that mess in many moons. ---
**Author:** ![mclark2](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/mclark2/32/170907_2.png) [@mclark2](https://forum.nachi.org/u/mclark2)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2014, 5:11am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/another-fine-job-done/84080/17 "2014-02-03T05:11:11Z")
I’ve never seen anything that bad, and I inspect remodels performed by “my uncle, an electrician in the coal mines”…