# Appliance connectors **URL:** \ **Category:** Plumbing Inspections\ **Created:** [January 30, 2010, 3:00am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/appliance-connectors/46236 "2010-01-30T03:00:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![jfunderburk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/jfunderburk/32/187920_2.png) [@jfunderburk](https://forum.nachi.org/u/jfunderburk)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2010, 3:00am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/appliance-connectors/46236/1 "2010-01-30T03:00:57Z")
Photo taken from crawl space. Anyone see anything wrong? Piping is feeding the gas logs. ![012910 083.JPG](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/original/2X/e/e11bbcaa164d44689637e22cd502c1a2a87c908c.jpeg) ![012910 083.JPG](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/original/2X/e/e11bbcaa164d44689637e22cd502c1a2a87c908c.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![jlevy1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/jlevy1/32/57038_2.png) [@jlevy1](https://forum.nachi.org/u/jlevy1)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2010, 3:53am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/appliance-connectors/46236/2 "2010-01-30T03:53:19Z")
> [@jfunderburk](#): > > Photo taken from crawl space. Anyone see anything wrong? Piping is feeding the gas logs. > > ![012910 083.JPG](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/original/2X/e/e11bbcaa164d44689637e22cd502c1a2a87c908c.jpeg) Other than flex lines are not to pass through floor levels, no its cool.🙂 ---
**Author:** ![bhartley](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/bhartley/32/1448_2.png) [@bhartley](https://forum.nachi.org/u/bhartley)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2010, 3:55am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/appliance-connectors/46236/3 "2010-01-30T03:55:20Z")
Is the gas line laying across the cooper pipe? ---
**Author:** ![bsmith](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/bsmith/32/1175_2.png) [@bsmith](https://forum.nachi.org/u/bsmith)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2010, 3:57am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/appliance-connectors/46236/4 "2010-01-30T03:57:16Z")
Flex connectors for gas fireplaces are usually allowed to pass through floors or walls. I had a similar situation last year and found the code for it somewhere, but can’t find it now. I’ll look again in the morning. ---
**Author:** ![jlevy1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/jlevy1/32/57038_2.png) [@jlevy1](https://forum.nachi.org/u/jlevy1)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2010, 4:11am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/appliance-connectors/46236/5 "2010-01-30T04:11:32Z")
> [@bsmith](#): > > Flex connectors for gas fireplaces are usually allowed to pass through floors or walls. I had a similar situation last year and found the code for it somewhere, but can’t find it now. I’ll look again in the morning. I have never heard of that. Walls yes floors no. I would be interested in knowing. ---
**Author:** ![bking](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/bking/32/624_2.png) [@bking](https://forum.nachi.org/u/bking)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2010, 4:13am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/appliance-connectors/46236/6 "2010-01-30T04:13:10Z")
This is from instructions for the common Dormont piping: 1. DO NOT install the gas connector so that it is concealed within or runs through any wall,floor or other partition. The gas outlet must be in the same room as the appliance. This is so it is visible for periodic inspection. ---
**Author:** ![bhartley](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/bhartley/32/1448_2.png) [@bhartley](https://forum.nachi.org/u/bhartley)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2010, 4:15am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/appliance-connectors/46236/7 "2010-01-30T04:15:33Z")
How long is the connector? Where is the shut off? ---
**Author:** ![jfunderburk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/jfunderburk/32/187920_2.png) [@jfunderburk](https://forum.nachi.org/u/jfunderburk)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2010, 4:19am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/appliance-connectors/46236/8 "2010-01-30T04:19:47Z")
It was probably 6 feet long. The shutoff was beneath the firebox of the manufactured fireplace. Here’s what I said: “A gas appliance connector passes through a floor; a practice which the manufacturer prohibits. The manufacturers of these devices state: “Do not conceal connector or run connector through enclosed outdoor BBQ pits, walls, partitions, floors or appliance panels.” Service by a licensed plumbing or HVAC contractor is recommended.” That quote came from a connector I picked up at Lowes a long time ago and documented the warning. ---
**Author:** ![jfunderburk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/jfunderburk/32/187920_2.png) [@jfunderburk](https://forum.nachi.org/u/jfunderburk)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2010, 4:23am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/appliance-connectors/46236/9 "2010-01-30T04:23:24Z")
Anyone think this is OK? ![011410 124.JPG](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/original/2X/b/b04b852b047d5114a3b3f9203505b3c5433346c4.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![rarmacost](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/rarmacost/32/56455_2.png) [@rarmacost](https://forum.nachi.org/u/rarmacost)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2010, 4:34am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/appliance-connectors/46236/10 "2010-01-30T04:34:49Z")
M2202.3 of the IRC 2006 allows it when rigid connections are impractical and to reduce jarring and vibration. labeled in accordance with UL 539. From the picture I don’t see anything impractical as to why a rigid line coudn’t be installed the only other thing not seen is the absence of a dripleg. Another question is were the line passes through the wall, should it be sleeved or insulated ---
**Author:** ![jfunderburk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/jfunderburk/32/187920_2.png) [@jfunderburk](https://forum.nachi.org/u/jfunderburk)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2010, 4:39am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/appliance-connectors/46236/11 "2010-01-30T04:39:13Z")
> [@rarmacost](#): > > M2202.3 of the IRC 2006 allows it when rigid connections are impractical and to reduce jarring and vibration. labeled in accordance with UL 539. > From the picture I don’t see anything impractical as to why a rigid line coudn’t be installed the only other thing not seen is the absence of a dripleg. > Another question is were the line passes through the wall, should it be sleeved or insulated Nothing in the standard you mention allows an appliance connector to ever penetrate an HVAC cabinet, floor, wall, etc. because the manufacturers specifically prohibit that practice. “M2202.3 Flexible connectors. Flexible metal hose used where rigid connections are impractical or to reduce the effect of jarring and vibration shall be listed and labeled in accordance with UL 536 and shall be installed in compliance with its label and the manufacturer’s installation instructions. Connectors made from combustible materials shall not be used inside of buildings or above ground outside of buildings.” ---
**Author:** ![jfunderburk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/jfunderburk/32/187920_2.png) [@jfunderburk](https://forum.nachi.org/u/jfunderburk)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2010, 4:42am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/appliance-connectors/46236/12 "2010-01-30T04:42:44Z")
> [@bhartley](#): > > Is the gas line laying across the cooper pipe? Looks like it. I didn’t catch that. Aren’t those connectors stainless? Would that present a corrosion problem??? ---
**Author:** ![bking](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/bking/32/624_2.png) [@bking](https://forum.nachi.org/u/bking)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2010, 4:57am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/appliance-connectors/46236/13 "2010-01-30T04:57:22Z")
Technically it would but the amount depends on the environment. You already said it was an improper installation so it is a moot point as far as the report goes. ---
**Author:** ![jfunderburk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/jfunderburk/32/187920_2.png) [@jfunderburk](https://forum.nachi.org/u/jfunderburk)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2010, 4:57am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/appliance-connectors/46236/14 "2010-01-30T04:57:38Z")
> [@bsmith](#): > > Flex connectors for gas fireplaces are usually allowed to pass through floors or walls. I had a similar situation last year and found the code for it somewhere, but can’t find it now. I’ll look again in the morning. I’ll be shocked if you find a code that says it’s OK to violate the manufacturers’ installation instructions, which prohibit that practice. ---
**Author:** ![rarmacost](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/rarmacost/32/56455_2.png) [@rarmacost](https://forum.nachi.org/u/rarmacost)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2010, 4:59am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/appliance-connectors/46236/15 "2010-01-30T04:59:06Z")
I wasn’t refurring to the hvac cabinet, by the time I got my first post off you asked another question. I need to type faster :mrgreen: ---
**Author:** ![jfunderburk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/jfunderburk/32/187920_2.png) [@jfunderburk](https://forum.nachi.org/u/jfunderburk)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2010, 5:01am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/appliance-connectors/46236/16 "2010-01-30T05:01:54Z")
> [@rarmacost](#): > > Another question is were the line passes through the wall, should it be sleeved or insulated It SHOULDN’T pass through a wall or floor. ---
**Author:** ![belliott](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/belliott/32/57038_2.png) [@belliott](https://forum.nachi.org/u/belliott)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2010, 6:40am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/appliance-connectors/46236/17 "2010-01-30T06:40:21Z")
No one mentioned lack of a drip leg in the first one. No shutoff either. ---
**Author:** ![belliott](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/belliott/32/57038_2.png) [@belliott](https://forum.nachi.org/u/belliott)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2010, 6:43am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/appliance-connectors/46236/18 "2010-01-30T06:43:34Z")
Why is the flex coming off a regulator in the second one? ---
**Author:** ![jfunderburk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/jfunderburk/32/187920_2.png) [@jfunderburk](https://forum.nachi.org/u/jfunderburk)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2010, 6:43am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/appliance-connectors/46236/19 "2010-01-30T06:43:58Z")
> [@belliott](#): > > No one mentioned lack of a drip leg in the first one. > No shutoff either. Bob, I mentioned somewhere that the shutoff was beneath the fireplace, in the family room, where it ought to be. Regarding drip legs, the gas companies around here do not require it on residential. ---
**Author:** ![belliott](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/belliott/32/57038_2.png) [@belliott](https://forum.nachi.org/u/belliott)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2010, 6:52am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/appliance-connectors/46236/20 "2010-01-30T06:52:55Z")
> [@jfunderburk](#): > > Bob, I mentioned somewhere that the shutoff was beneath the fireplace, in the family room, where it ought to be. > > Regarding drip legs, the gas companies around here do not require it on residential. Yeah saw the shutoff comment after ,but is there a individual shutoff for that branch before the flex? I think that is required . That is not csst and the flex may need to be changed. [Next page](https://forum.nachi.org/t/appliance-connectors/46236.md?page=2)