Best way to wake up in the morning

dredding · June 21, 2011, 9:51pm

This panel in a townhome appears to be original construction - can’t believe they could not find a better place for this.

Would you write this up?

ccurrins · June 21, 2011, 10:47pm

Yes, it’s not allowed by the NEC. Local AHJ may have allowed it, I’d still report it for safety.

dredding · June 21, 2011, 10:54pm

Thanks Chris. Can you offer the NEC code for my records? I would appreciate it.

jhagarty · June 21, 2011, 11:00pm

1993

240-24. Location in or on Premises.
- (e) Not Located in Bathrooms. In dwelling units and guest rooms of hotels and motels, overcurrent devices, other than supplementary overcurrent protection, shall not be located in bathrooms as defined in Article 100.

mcyr · June 21, 2011, 11:14pm

NEC 230.70 & 240.24 Electrical panels shall be readily accessible and shall not be
located in bathrooms or in the vicinity of easily ignitable materials such as clothes closets.

Hope that helps.

ccurrins · June 21, 2011, 11:14pm

Here’s another…

E3405.4 Location of working spaces and equipment. Required working space shall not be designated for storage. Panelboards and overcurrent protection devices shall not be located in clothes closets, in bathrooms, or over the steps of a stairway.

tspargo · June 22, 2011, 1:35am

AFAIK Darin there has been a restriction in NEC for bathrooms post 1993 and clothes closets even longer (post 1981), if you can believe it.

When was it built? There is no mandates for upgrades via NEC, but noteworthy nonetheless.

I had this discussion some time back… I think CA adopted these post '96 cycle.

Good Luck!

belliott · June 22, 2011, 1:39am

I would write up the title of this thread since we all know what the best way to wake up in the morning really is.

dredding · June 22, 2011, 4:11am

Thanks to all for your insight. Yea Bob, that too :). The townhome was built in 1989. I talked to the AHJ today and they put me on a phone carousel.

clambert2 · June 22, 2011, 4:42am

Report it as a safety concern. Do not quote code. Then move on.

belliott · June 22, 2011, 4:51am

Since we do not directly report codes and try to ***** foot around them for support my opinion…Let them know code present code and year implemented if you wish then follow up with appeal to common sense of safety because as we all know from a million opinions in agreement on this board “Safety Has No Time Frame”

Write it up!!!

(My goodness I guess P u s s ycat is a bad word also now.)

dredding · June 22, 2011, 6:15am

Yea, I was not planning on citing code, I just wanted that bit for my own library of goodies.

wwilson3 · June 22, 2011, 10:56am

and there you have it ,another rule in how not to thin the herd out.

Brian_A.MacNeish · June 22, 2011, 2:30pm

Was never bad in my time!