Built Up Roof Narrative

[kshepard (Kenton Shepard, CMI)]

@jhagarty

If the property is for sale
and the roof is not visibly leaking…
A built up roof where the waterproof surface is not visible

and you walk the surface (Built up / slag)
and it subsequently leaks…

You are now in the position
to pay
due to damage caused
because…

"you walked a roof
of indeterminate age and condition
and caused damage
that resulted
in water intrusion
and interior damage of finish materials."

Damn Joe, you post in a poetry format! I’m amazed that no one else has noticed this! From now on, would you please post in iambic pentameter?

[ryoung7 (ROBERT YOUNG, CMI)]

You have me scratching my head over that as poetry statement Kenton???
I am still looking at it as a limerick.

you walked a roof
**of indeterminate age and condition
**As she sat there with her lips just Alicken
and caused damage
that resulted
She ran screaming ASPHALTED ASPHALTED

Can’t finish the rest without rewording.
That would be copyright infringement YOU KNOW.
We do not need Michel Larson over here ranting. HA HA HA.
in water intrusion
and interior damage of finish materials."

[jhagarty (Joseph Hagarty, CMI)]

@dandersen

Now why would I do that?
Are you just been a sarcastic old fool?

Yes, it could be beyond its life expectancy. However life expectancy, as well as deferring inspection duties to another person is not a significant deficiency requiring reporting according to the standards of practice (See item B above).

As I stated in my reply; I observe, evaluate and report what I see.
The primary reason for a roof is to keep the rain out of the house. If it is doing this today, I really could care less about what it’s going to do tomorrow.
Not to say that I’m not going to advise the client that the roof is older than we expect it to perform. I will not however call in one of the most un-trusted contractors in existence to evaluate this roof unless I have something specifically for them to do (beyond looking at an old roof that is still functioning so that I am not professionally responsible or liable for making a bad, uneducated and unprofessional call).

Different style of reporting
when deferring for review…
there is also a comment

- Recommend obtaining estimations for roof replacement at this time.
- Recommend replacements be made prior to closing.

The roof may be functioning
as you suggest…
But to wait for an indication of leakage?

Just like tires,
I replace and recommend replacement prior to failure.

[dandersen (David Andersen, TN HI# 40)]

My tire guy tells me when I’m ready, he dosen’t make me change them.

- Recommend replacements be made prior to closing.

Prior to closing? Sounds like an indication of a “significant defect”, which it really is not (unless it’s leaking right now).

My state requires:

State any systems or components so inspected that do not function as intended, allowing for normal wear and tear, or adversely affect the habitability of the dwelling;
(iv) State whether the condition reported; a.requires repair or b.subsequent observation, or c. warrants further investigation by a specialist;

I think that b. is more approperate than a. and the inspector should be good enough not to have to do c.!

[ryoung7 (ROBERT YOUNG, CMI)]

Look all properly installed roofs will outlast the warranty fr 10 to 12 years of life expectancy.
( maintenance ). I worked commercial roofing for 4 seasons. We did some old roofs and we did not fall through them Mr. Hagarty.
By using car tires as an example hurts your argument even more.

Just like tires,
I replace and recommend replacement prior to failure.
You must have made a mistake Joe.

Please think again because that makes no sense.
You can see tires right. Even use a gauge to measure the tread depth, look at the sidewalls, check see if the cap is de-laminating.
You are not even looking at the roof let alone any elements atop.