# Bunched grounds **URL:** \ **Category:** Electrical Inspections\ **Created:** [January 2, 2019, 5:22pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/bunched-grounds/127649 "2019-01-02T17:22:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![eklugmann](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/eklugmann/32/259233_2.png) [@eklugmann](https://forum.nachi.org/u/eklugmann)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2019, 5:22pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/bunched-grounds/127649/1 "2019-01-02T17:22:16Z")
It seems that they ran out of room on the Buss and bunched up the grounds at this (GEC) attachment point. Is this acceptable? Thank you, please correct my terminology if I got it wrong ![IMG_0039 (3).JPG](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/original/3X/7/4/746de6e89023f8972e1d9189c515a39e5d6cd78a.jpeg) ![IMG_0039.jpg](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/original/3X/f/5/f5511424abfe9f83778eef0a67492a2c7b71fe5b.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![eklugmann](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/eklugmann/32/259233_2.png) [@eklugmann](https://forum.nachi.org/u/eklugmann)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2019, 6:30pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/bunched-grounds/127649/2 "2019-01-02T18:30:45Z")
I meant to say bundled grounds. ---
**Author:** ![dhawley](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/dhawley/32/1230_2.png) [@dhawley](https://forum.nachi.org/u/dhawley)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2019, 8:24pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/bunched-grounds/127649/3 "2019-01-02T20:24:50Z")
Panel is bonded and the lug used seems to be large enough for these grounds (6?). I would recommend repair of double lugged neutrals and evaluation of grounds by a qualified electrician. ---
**Author:** ![wogletree](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/wogletree/32/58250_2.png) [@wogletree](https://forum.nachi.org/u/wogletree)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2019, 8:27pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/bunched-grounds/127649/4 "2019-01-02T20:27:07Z")
A agree with what dhawley says, but I think I am more bothered by the bundled grounds than he is. Most breaker panel specs limit the number of grounds allowed under a single lug to 2. If a ground wire is not solidly connected to the main grounding conductor, it could fail to perform adequately. Bundling them this way does not appear to me to be an adequate method. D, could you tell me where you are seeing the panel being bonded? ---
**Author:** ![rmeier2](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/rmeier2/32/59909_2.png) [@rmeier2](https://forum.nachi.org/u/rmeier2)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2019, 8:45pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/bunched-grounds/127649/5 "2019-01-02T20:45:18Z")
That terminal is not listed for more than one EGC so it’s a violation and should be corrected. ---
**Author:** ![rlewis5](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/rlewis5/32/337040_2.png) [@rlewis5](https://forum.nachi.org/u/rlewis5)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2019, 8:48pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/bunched-grounds/127649/6 "2019-01-02T20:48:07Z")
If I was to have done that I would have twisted them all together. ---
**Author:** ![rmeier2](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/rmeier2/32/59909_2.png) [@rmeier2](https://forum.nachi.org/u/rmeier2)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2019, 10:09pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/bunched-grounds/127649/7 "2019-01-02T22:09:31Z")
> [@rlewis5](#): > > If I was to have done that I would have twisted them all together. Me too, and it would probably be just fine that way (even though it’s a violation). 😉 ---
**Author:** ![eklugmann](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/eklugmann/32/259233_2.png) [@eklugmann](https://forum.nachi.org/u/eklugmann)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2019, 10:39pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/bunched-grounds/127649/8 "2019-01-02T22:39:55Z")
Thank you all for your help! ---
**Author:** ![jfrederick](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/jfrederick/32/58314_2.png) [@jfrederick](https://forum.nachi.org/u/jfrederick)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2019, 12:15am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/bunched-grounds/127649/9 "2019-01-03T00:15:19Z")
> [@wogletree](#): > > could you tell me where you are seeing the panel being bonded? Bonding strap on the right side neutral bus bar… right by the upper right white wire on the 20 amp breaker ---
**Author:** ![rmeier2](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/rmeier2/32/59909_2.png) [@rmeier2](https://forum.nachi.org/u/rmeier2)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2019, 12:28am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/bunched-grounds/127649/10 "2019-01-03T00:28:27Z")
> [@jfrederick](#): > > Bonding strap on the right side neutral bus bar… right by the upper right white wire on the 20 amp breaker Yup, right there mounted to the can with a green screw. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![dhawley](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/dhawley/32/1230_2.png) [@dhawley](https://forum.nachi.org/u/dhawley)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 2:46am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/bunched-grounds/127649/11 "2019-01-04T02:46:04Z")
Robert I hadn’t considered one wire, I was thinking twisted cable. Of coarse the proper installation would have been an additional ground bar. Good catch. Don Hawley CPI Hawley Home Inspections LLC [Home Inspection Services, Termite, Radon & Sewer Scope](http://www.hawleyhomeinspectionsllc.com) [DonHawley575@gmail.com](mailto:DonHawley575@gmail.com) Licensed Radon Professional Licensed Home Inspector ---
**Author:** ![wogletree](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/wogletree/32/58250_2.png) [@wogletree](https://forum.nachi.org/u/wogletree)\ **Post date:** [January 4, 2019, 7:04pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/bunched-grounds/127649/12 "2019-01-04T19:04:59Z")
> [@jfrederick](#): > > Bonding strap on the right side neutral bus bar… right by the upper right white wire on the 20 amp breaker I see it now. Thanks!