# Can someone explain what is going on here? Looks like a mess **URL:** \ **Category:** Plumbing Inspections\ **Created:** [November 12, 2020, 2:00am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/can-someone-explain-what-is-going-on-here-looks-like-a-mess/178672 "2020-11-12T02:00:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![adunin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/adunin/32/193351_2.png) [@adunin](https://forum.nachi.org/u/adunin)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2020, 2:00am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/can-someone-explain-what-is-going-on-here-looks-like-a-mess/178672/1 "2020-11-12T02:00:56Z")
Not sure what to make of this… ![IMG_2686](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/original/3X/0/a/0a5994f02a1d90db39f1cbb67e0a02010e1b4b1f.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![lkage](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/lkage/32/347658_2.png) [@lkage](https://forum.nachi.org/u/lkage)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2020, 2:05am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/can-someone-explain-what-is-going-on-here-looks-like-a-mess/178672/2 "2020-11-12T02:05:45Z")
> [@adunin](#): > > Not sure what to make of this…… They are trying to vent the kitchen island, but failing: ![1](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/original/3X/b/e/becc5cff310f7f09492e76ebf7aa4ee8e9bbde37.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![mwilles](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/mwilles/32/181480_2.png) [@mwilles](https://forum.nachi.org/u/mwilles)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2020, 2:06am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/can-someone-explain-what-is-going-on-here-looks-like-a-mess/178672/3 "2020-11-12T02:06:14Z")
Island vent ran incorrectly. I don’t know what the black tape is about or why there are so many clean outs. The water piping is a mess. ---
**Author:** ![mwilles](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/mwilles/32/181480_2.png) [@mwilles](https://forum.nachi.org/u/mwilles)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2020, 2:10am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/can-someone-explain-what-is-going-on-here-looks-like-a-mess/178672/4 "2020-11-12T02:10:47Z")
Larry has a very good illustration of a properly constructed island drain. ---
**Author:** ![adunin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/adunin/32/193351_2.png) [@adunin](https://forum.nachi.org/u/adunin)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2020, 2:20am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/can-someone-explain-what-is-going-on-here-looks-like-a-mess/178672/5 "2020-11-12T02:20:40Z")
Anyone have a good narrative for this? First time I’ve seen it ---
**Author:** ![lkage](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/lkage/32/347658_2.png) [@lkage](https://forum.nachi.org/u/lkage)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2020, 3:38am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/can-someone-explain-what-is-going-on-here-looks-like-a-mess/178672/6 "2020-11-12T03:38:10Z")
> [@adunin](#): > > Anyone have a good narrative for this? First time I’ve seen it. The drain under the island is not done satisfactorily. I recommend a qualified, licensed, plumber make the corrections needed to fix the plumbing drainage as needed to correct the defects so they operate correctly. Then post my picture with that narrative next to that as an example. ---
**Author:** ![adunin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/adunin/32/193351_2.png) [@adunin](https://forum.nachi.org/u/adunin)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2020, 4:06am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/can-someone-explain-what-is-going-on-here-looks-like-a-mess/178672/7 "2020-11-12T04:06:42Z")
Thanks but is it actually wrong though? ---
**Author:** ![lkage](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/lkage/32/347658_2.png) [@lkage](https://forum.nachi.org/u/lkage)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2020, 4:18am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/can-someone-explain-what-is-going-on-here-looks-like-a-mess/178672/8 "2020-11-12T04:18:32Z")
> [@adunin](#): > > Thanks but is it actually wrong though.? Yes, for one thing the vent enters the drain without a vent to air connected before it. (Going down stream.)…not to mention the black “tape”. ---
**Author:** ![mwilles](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/mwilles/32/181480_2.png) [@mwilles](https://forum.nachi.org/u/mwilles)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2020, 5:51am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/can-someone-explain-what-is-going-on-here-looks-like-a-mess/178672/9 "2020-11-12T05:51:02Z")
> [@lkage](#): > > Yes, for one thing the vent enters the drain without a vent to air connected before it. (Going down stream.)…not to mention the black “tape”. Correct, and also add the 90 elbow and two 45 elbows are required to be installed as high as possible to the bottom of the countertop. The result is a fixture that is not vented. ---
**Author:** ![asinger](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/asinger/32/100152_2.png) [@asinger](https://forum.nachi.org/u/asinger)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 1:12am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/can-someone-explain-what-is-going-on-here-looks-like-a-mess/178672/10 "2020-11-13T01:12:56Z")
I for one am happy to see that the ‘plumber’ remembered to use escutcheon plates on the supply lines for a clean neat look. ---
**Author:** ![scase](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/scase/32/57038_2.png) [@scase](https://forum.nachi.org/u/scase)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 3:43am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/can-someone-explain-what-is-going-on-here-looks-like-a-mess/178672/11 "2020-11-13T03:43:53Z")
Must have been a sale on cleanouts and tape. Hot mess. ---
**Author:** ![ryoung7](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/ryoung7/32/188798_2.png) [@ryoung7](https://forum.nachi.org/u/ryoung7)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 11:23am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/can-someone-explain-what-is-going-on-here-looks-like-a-mess/178672/12 "2020-11-13T11:23:57Z")
Doesn’t the electrical tape used as a sealant moot all the plumbing supply, drainage and venting installation defects? Where’s that plumbing code cycle under, electrical tape sealant rules…I have to have it somewhere… 😉 ---
**Author:** ![srechkin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/srechkin/32/180448_2.png) [@srechkin](https://forum.nachi.org/u/srechkin)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 12:20pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/can-someone-explain-what-is-going-on-here-looks-like-a-mess/178672/13 "2020-11-13T12:20:40Z")
> [@mwilles](#): > > I don’t know what the black tape is about The tape was used to secure the pex and then it got moved, that’s why you see some left over tape on the red pex. The white pex, on the right, is still secured to the PVC. What a bloody mess! ---
**Author:** ![mwilles](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/mwilles/32/181480_2.png) [@mwilles](https://forum.nachi.org/u/mwilles)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 12:37pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/can-someone-explain-what-is-going-on-here-looks-like-a-mess/178672/14 "2020-11-13T12:37:47Z")
Looks like a green inspection sticker on top of that mess. WTF, who would approve that! ---
**Author:** ![srechkin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/srechkin/32/180448_2.png) [@srechkin](https://forum.nachi.org/u/srechkin)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 12:39pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/can-someone-explain-what-is-going-on-here-looks-like-a-mess/178672/15 "2020-11-13T12:39:16Z")
> [@mwilles](#): > > WTF, who would approve that! Good enough for this neighborhood 😉 ---
**Author:** ![lkage](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/lkage/32/347658_2.png) [@lkage](https://forum.nachi.org/u/lkage)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 1:41pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/can-someone-explain-what-is-going-on-here-looks-like-a-mess/178672/16 "2020-11-13T13:41:45Z")
> [@mwilles](#): > > Looks like a green inspection sticker on top of that mess. WTF, who would approve that.! That’s what I thought, Martin…crazy… 🤪 ---
**Author:** ![jdepiero](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/jdepiero/32/356888_2.png) [@jdepiero](https://forum.nachi.org/u/jdepiero)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 2:21pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/can-someone-explain-what-is-going-on-here-looks-like-a-mess/178672/17 "2020-11-13T14:21:51Z")
Just saw this mess. What’s with the plug coming through the cabinet on the right? Maybe for the dishwasher? I don’t see any electrical receptacle for the disposal either. Maybe they spend all the money on pipe fittings? 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![jfudge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/jfudge/32/414352_2.png) [@jfudge](https://forum.nachi.org/u/jfudge)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 2:26pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/can-someone-explain-what-is-going-on-here-looks-like-a-mess/178672/18 "2020-11-13T14:26:09Z")
They need @mwilles to go in & fix the mess! 😀😉 ---
**Author:** ![mwilles](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/mwilles/32/181480_2.png) [@mwilles](https://forum.nachi.org/u/mwilles)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 2:27pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/can-someone-explain-what-is-going-on-here-looks-like-a-mess/178672/19 "2020-11-13T14:27:10Z")
Obviously finished during the rough in. This sink would have been better off with an air admittance valve. ---
**Author:** ![mwilles](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/mwilles/32/181480_2.png) [@mwilles](https://forum.nachi.org/u/mwilles)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2020, 2:27pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/can-someone-explain-what-is-going-on-here-looks-like-a-mess/178672/20 "2020-11-13T14:27:37Z")
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