# Can this be an Egress window? **URL:** \ **Category:** Interior Inspections\ **Created:** [June 14, 2024, 1:12am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/can-this-be-an-egress-window/243580 "2024-06-14T01:12:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![kmalone](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/kmalone/32/172217_2.png) [@kmalone](https://forum.nachi.org/u/kmalone)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2024, 1:12am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/can-this-be-an-egress-window/243580/1 "2024-06-14T01:12:22Z")
This home was completly remodeled. They claim that these windows are egress because they are above ground… ![Bedroom](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/original/4X/e/c/f/ecf43a2a55fce00a835dd7949196f028199ac16b.jpeg) ![Bedroom2](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/original/4X/4/6/5/465b6e627940774889dcb970507092c53fa371e5.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![mroberts21](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/mroberts21/32/285622_2.png) [@mroberts21](https://forum.nachi.org/u/mroberts21)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2024, 1:24am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/can-this-be-an-egress-window/243580/2 "2024-06-14T01:24:07Z")
The upper ones look like they may be, those lower ones look too small. 24h x 20w opening. You have to measure it, hard to guess from a picture. ---
**Author:** ![lkage](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/lkage/32/347658_2.png) [@lkage](https://forum.nachi.org/u/lkage)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2024, 1:43am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/can-this-be-an-egress-window/243580/3 "2024-06-14T01:43:33Z")
R310.2 1. Minimum 5.7 square feet of net clear opening area. - Exception: 5.0 square feet allowed if located at the grade-floor. 1. Minimum 24 inches of net clear height opening. 2. Minimum 20 inches of net clear width opening. ---
**Author:** ![ddagostino](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/ddagostino/32/60136_2.png) [@ddagostino](https://forum.nachi.org/u/ddagostino)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2024, 3:43am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/can-this-be-an-egress-window/243580/4 "2024-06-14T03:43:38Z")
> [@mroberts21](#): > > 24h x 20w opening. Not exactly accurate to state that dimension without specifying the net clear opening. 24x20 is only about 3.5 sq ft. ---
**Author:** ![dfreund](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/dfreund/32/339074_2.png) [@dfreund](https://forum.nachi.org/u/dfreund)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2024, 6:34am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/can-this-be-an-egress-window/243580/5 "2024-06-14T06:34:41Z")
> [@ddagostino](#): > > Not exactly accurate to state that dimension without specifying the net clear opening. 24x20 is only about 3.5 sq ft. Right. > [@lkage](#): > > 1. Minimum 5.7 square feet of net clear opening area. > > - Exception: 5.0 square feet allowed if located at the grade-floor. > > 1. Minimum 24 inches of net clear height opening. > 2. Minimum 20 inches of net clear width opening. Right. The minimum 24 inches of net clear height opening would require the other dimension (width) to be a minimum of around 34.2" to equal 5.7 sq ft without the exception. The Minimum 20 inches of net clear width opening would require the other dimension (height) to be a minimum of around 41" to equal 5.7 sq ft without the exception. ---
**Author:** ![dfreund](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/dfreund/32/339074_2.png) [@dfreund](https://forum.nachi.org/u/dfreund)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2024, 6:58am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/can-this-be-an-egress-window/243580/6 "2024-06-14T06:58:02Z")
> [@kmalone](#): > > They claim that these windows are egress because they are above ground… Who is **they**? Here is what the IRC states as the location requirements for egress windows: # SECTIONR310 EMERGENCY ESCAPE AND RESCUE OPENINGS # R310.1 Emergency escape and rescue opening required. Basements, habitable attics and every sleeping room shall have not less than one operable emergency escape and rescue opening. Where basements contain one or more sleeping rooms, an emergency escape and rescue opening shall be required in each sleeping room. Emergency escape and rescue openings shall open directly into a public way, or to a yard or court that opens to a public way. ---
**Author:** ![mfellman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/mfellman/32/369692_2.png) [@mfellman](https://forum.nachi.org/u/mfellman)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2024, 10:21am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/can-this-be-an-egress-window/243580/7 "2024-06-14T10:21:31Z")
As inspectors we don’t cite code and I’m one of the biggest drum beaters to that point… However, reasonable egress in modern houses is one of the more basic things in our education and training. Did this really never come up in your training and education? ---
**Author:** ![mroberts21](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/mroberts21/32/285622_2.png) [@mroberts21](https://forum.nachi.org/u/mroberts21)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2024, 11:09am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/can-this-be-an-egress-window/243580/8 "2024-06-14T11:09:57Z")
> [@ddagostino](#): > > Not exactly accurate to state that dimension without specifying the net clear opening. 24x20 is only about 3.5 sq ft. Right. Either way, they need to be measured. Most Egress windows are huge. ---
**Author:** ![rkenney](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/rkenney/32/405447_2.png) [@rkenney](https://forum.nachi.org/u/rkenney)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2024, 11:25am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/can-this-be-an-egress-window/243580/9 "2024-06-14T11:25:29Z")
> [@mroberts21](#): > > Most Egress windows are huge. That’s because only half (removable half) satisfies the egress dimension. They now make egress windows that pull entirely from the frame. ![Below Grade](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/original/3X/8/8/88afef039ff4da7033df553995a8989a77639b03.jpeg) ![Slide2](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/original/3X/2/1/21120c60c4f11fffb375b60a73d28459f19364aa.jpeg) ![IHI20211213_110625](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/original/4X/8/e/6/8e6961ed0df3ff3e1135fbd583f568ea84c47ec9.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![ruecker](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/ruecker/32/357170_2.png) [@ruecker](https://forum.nachi.org/u/ruecker)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2024, 11:28am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/can-this-be-an-egress-window/243580/10 "2024-06-14T11:28:39Z")
Check that sill height too. Looks higher than 44." ---
**Author:** ![rkenney](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/rkenney/32/405447_2.png) [@rkenney](https://forum.nachi.org/u/rkenney)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2024, 12:07pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/can-this-be-an-egress-window/243580/11 "2024-06-14T12:07:48Z")
R310.6 is the code of interest where an existing basement is remodeled. Sellers and agents often argue EERO is un-needed in these situations because it wasn’t required when the home was built. This is true until a sleeping room is constructed in the remodeled basement. **R310.6** Alterations or repairs of existing basements. An emergency escape and rescue opening is not required where existing basements undergo alterations or repairs. **Exception:** New sleeping rooms created in an existing basement shall be provided with emergency escape and rescue openings in accordance with Section R310.1. Replacement windows in upper story bedrooms of older homes do not have to be egress windows as long as the replacement fits the existing framing without modification. ---
**Author:** ![bhoefer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/bhoefer/32/408971_2.png) [@bhoefer](https://forum.nachi.org/u/bhoefer)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2024, 12:58pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/can-this-be-an-egress-window/243580/12 "2024-06-14T12:58:36Z")
> [@rkenney](#): > > That’s because only half (removable half) satisfies the egress dimension. This is an area where I disagree with code. Any reasonably intelligent teenager or adult, and certainly any rescue person, would be inclined to simply bust the window open if more room was needed for emergency egress. If a younger child is trapped, they are likely to be small in stature. I am more critical about the height of the sill (\< 44"), as well as hard to reach sash locks. I happen to live in an area where the Carr fire occurred a few years ago. Several deaths were attributed to the sill heights being too high and the local building inspectors now have it high on their list, as well as myself. ---
**Author:** ![bcawhern1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/bcawhern1/32/408713_2.png) [@bcawhern1](https://forum.nachi.org/u/bcawhern1)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2024, 1:31pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/can-this-be-an-egress-window/243580/13 "2024-06-14T13:31:27Z")
I have concerns with this. Is there a beam under there? If so, here in a GA on a new deck the beam cantilever cannot be more that 1/4 the width and beam depth must be \> = to joist depth. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/original/4X/1/4/d/14de2226acc4485b8567a8139d9a4a6badd0e222.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![kmalone](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/kmalone/32/172217_2.png) [@kmalone](https://forum.nachi.org/u/kmalone)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2024, 9:58pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/can-this-be-an-egress-window/243580/14 "2024-06-14T21:58:49Z")
Okay, I love it when someone questions the education of another inspector. I hope it makes you feel superior to others. I was asked to give an inspection quote on the home. They said it was completely remodeled from top to bottom. I asked them about the basement bedroom windows and the people that remodeled it claims they are egress windows. I was not there to measure them but just from looking at the photos a large adult is not going out that window. And a youngster would need a ladder to get up to it. ---
**Author:** ![rkenney](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/rkenney/32/405447_2.png) [@rkenney](https://forum.nachi.org/u/rkenney)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2024, 10:19pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/can-this-be-an-egress-window/243580/15 "2024-06-14T22:19:31Z")
The problem I see with the OP’s photo is the grade level windows are double hung (two sashs). Unless there is a way to remove them from the inside in one piece there is not enough area of one sash to meet the requirements. Messing around with tilt in (for cleaning) windows won’t be acceptable for EERO windows. ---
**Author:** ![ruecker](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/ruecker/32/357170_2.png) [@ruecker](https://forum.nachi.org/u/ruecker)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2024, 10:38pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/can-this-be-an-egress-window/243580/16 "2024-06-14T22:38:17Z")
> [@rkenney](#): > > The problem I see with the OP’s photo is the grade level windows are double hung (two sashs)… Yep, a casement might do it. I often recommend that on older homes with small windows in the bedrooms. ---
**Author:** ![mfellman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/mfellman/32/369692_2.png) [@mfellman](https://forum.nachi.org/u/mfellman)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2024, 11:39pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/can-this-be-an-egress-window/243580/17 "2024-06-14T23:39:10Z")
Wow man… sorry, didn’t mean any offense. It’s a serious question. Did this really not come up? I just remember getting clubbed over the head with it. ---
**Author:** ![imayer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/imayer/32/197054_2.png) [@imayer](https://forum.nachi.org/u/imayer)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2024, 12:57am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/can-this-be-an-egress-window/243580/18 "2024-06-15T00:57:19Z")
Looks small in the photo. But when in doubt, measure. Some times your eyeballs will deceive you.