Cert Building Contractor doing wm without taking wm course

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I am looking for the legal documents or better to show a local CBC that he is required to take the UMVI
( WM ) course to complete the report as well as his non licensed employee who he is allowing him to do under his CBC lic number.
He is a licensed CBC , but never took the WM class, confirmed by the DBPR.
I know the GC/CBC class does not teach the WM course. Any assistance would be helpful.
The FL statue 627.711 states “The qualified Inspector who…”
He has never taken the class, am I correct?

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I do not believe you are correct. However, CBC are required to take continuing education which has 2 hours of wind mitigation training.

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As you can see on the citizens website all that contractors are required to have is a license to perform these inspections.

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he has not completed the CE, the 3 hr, or the 16 hr class.

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Also, as long as his employee is not an independent contractor, and possesses the requisite skill, knowledge, and experience, to conduct a mitigation verification inspection, he can do these inspections under the GC’s license.

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being a GC or a CBC does not train you on how to do a wind mit. Any GC or CBC on this thread?
You must take a class to be able to be competent in whatever your working on, either its HVAC or a Roof system.
Why wouldnt a CBC just take the class and be done with it?

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The employee is not a licensed anything and has never taken a class either. Just a employee using his license number

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Doesn’t matter that is how the law was written. Im sorry to burst your bubble and I get it. However, the state basically wrote the law and said those 4 other industry licensor’s are better then the lowly home inspector in this case.

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He doesn’t have to so he won’t. Yes it would be better if he did.

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627.711 states Qualified … What makes someone qualified ? I have 3 different WM certs… Im qualified… He has zero and his employee has zero … Who trained who ?

Les, your not bursting my bubble. Guys like the CBC Im discussing is hurting EVERYONE that has completed the wm course. I wont bring up his price because you will automatically know whom I am taking about in NE Florida.
The CLIB states you must have the 3 hr class for any contractor that completes the report. I want a GC or a CBC to jump into this conversation for clarification

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One is already here

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Les, did you take the WM class to learn how to do it ?

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yes, but way back when we first started these things I was not required to have one.

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back in 2010 I take it. But you took the class and got certified. It shows your are qualified .
If I were to audit you 5 times and all 5 times you failed my audit and I questioned your training or the ability to do a report correctly. Id be correct saying your not properly trained and nether is your employee.

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I have a busy day ahead of me tomorrow , cheers

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yes I took the class a long time ago. Im not disagreeing with you. Anyone who does them will and does benefit from taking the training. I learn something everytime I take the course. As the law is written the GC would be ok but the employee would not.

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All 5 times, the employee did the report and I failed each audit .
I called the CBC out on it and well , Im on here finding answers.
Can you share the legal ?

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No I can’t direct you to the legal but if I was going to pursue this I would contact the DBPR and find out from them.

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I have been with Internachi, DBPR, CLIB, and the OIR.
Interpretation from all of them is different. Some do not like what I have shared with them at all.
Changes need to be made on the 1802 form to remove the employee.

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I don’t agree with the law as written either but no-one asked me. When this whole thing with home inspectors licensing started these other trades were well established and licensed so they gave them what appears to me to be a higher value or authority than home inspectors. So yes this law should definitely be revisited.

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