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I am sorry to inform you sir that the use of the word “Cool” in a reply to any message board posts regarding , IR, Energy Audits, etc are a direct infringement of the Certified Master Energy Auditor professional designation Trademark.

Please be forewarned that the Law firm of Dewey, Cheatum and Howe will be contacting you shortly regarding a settlement.

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See you in court… :slight_smile:

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Since the energy audit is not a “home inspection” and would be closer
to the concept of an expert contractor advising a client about home
improvements, then an auditor should be “allowed” to do some of the
repairs, in order to supply a more complete service.

If the energy auditor did some home improvements, then that person
should NOT do the regular “home inspection”… in order to avoid a conflict
of interest.

It would seem that this principle would apply and the auditor should be free
to make repairs since there is not the usual conflict of the interested parties
in the buying and selling process. I can see how this might not apply if
some states make the energy audit part of the selling of a home, and regulate
it just like a home inspection.

It would also seem that the energy auditor’s participation in any repairs
would not amount to more than a few thousand dollars, much of the time.
Since the potential dollars related to energy upgrades would be so low,
then most states may not bother to regulate who can make the repairs…
IMHO. I know that upgrades may be very expensive in some cases.

Any thought?

John, most of the leading energy auditors in the country are contractors, some are even qualified to teach. Most contractors who have been in business for a long time and have continued their education are in the front lines of weatherization daily.

As far as repairs go there’s a lot more to it then blowing in a little insulation and caulking a few windows. Some of these recommendations could be in the tens of thousands of dollars. For older homes especially here in the north east there are insulation issues, ventilation, windows and heating systems. The heating systems are sometimes an issue because many still have asbestos in them.

NH, as I have read stands to receive over 20 million for weatherization and energy auditors as well as performance contractors appear to be in for a busy year.

John, I should also add that I’m a contractor (25 years) a home inspector (10 years) a building science thermographer and soon to be certified energy auditor.

As a contractor I not only furnish and install home energy products but this company will complete the audits. As far as inspections goes, I will never work on a home I inspect nor do I inspect a home I’ve worked on.

I think the contractors of tomorrow will be required by public demand to have the education and proper tools to help the homeowner make an educated decision on the most cost effective energy use in their homes.

Good posts Peter. You are correct, some houses will require allot of money to upgrade.

I am interested in this. Nick I assume you will post when you have some results?

Sidenote, The aforementioned law firm has taken in a new partner. It is now:

Mann,
Dewie,
Cheatum,
and Howe.

And to add a little to what Peter posted, from what I have covered in BPI / Resnet training so far, their recommended “SOP” states that the energy auditor can do the work as well as the inspection. They do recommend (require?) that the fact that the energy auditor is also a contractor be covered to customer before doing the audit.

As John stated, this might change in states where the energy audit would be part of a real estate transaction. Time will tell on this one.

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Any more progression on this certification anyone? Nick?

I want to pitch in my support for this idea. BPI training here costs near $1000 with field testing. I am sure I won’t learn much more with it than I have learned here already.

I have taken tons of training here, including John’s excellent IR Certification course, the Green Building, and some odd 70 more hours of CE certs here.

I have my Fluke camera, moisture meters and some $1000 more equipment. I am doing a bit of business now with it but do feel this is a good growth area.

But with billions coming in Federal assistance NACHI members need to be able to participate. It would be great if you guys can get this on a front burner fast!

On that same line, could somebody at NACHI put together all the EXACT federal and state programs that are flying fast and furious now? It would be a big help to be able to decipher where all this money is going and how we (and our customers) can get some of it.

Thanks!

Bob, I’m in BPIs training as we speak and you would be surprised what you’ll lean. Also to get more involved with weatherization you will need to be certified ( not by NACHI ) and purchase a blower door, digital C/O meter, gas detector among other tools but I believe it will be a worth while investment.

Did you find a blower door yet Peter?

Throw in a combustion analyzer, Co2 meter, O2 meter, Temp & Humidity meter, duct blaster, duct blaster tape (expendable). A couple of those meters are offered as all-in-one units through a couple manufactures. I would highly recommend getting a dedicated Co meter even if another meter covers it. They are fairly cheap. Some of our customers have also gone with a meter like the Fluke 975 and the Fluke 983. An infrared camera will eventually be a standard as well.

Currently BPI and Resnet are working on merging. Resnet is adopting an infrared standard. I have heard both should be done by years end.

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Pete ;

Thanks for the heads up. I was hoping NACHI could get certified for these Weatherization designations also. It seems they have done so much to get their courses certified for credits in so many areas…this just seems like a natural to me.

Another $5,000-$10,000 in training and equipment is out of my range right now. Still trying to pay off cameras and meters and such. But I’ll plug along with thermal energy audits and hope the market will pick up.

I have seen the proposed RESNET IR standards…they are going to require a fairly high-end IR camera which will price most small shops out of the market. Figures :frowning:

In Kansas now to even do a C/O or CO2 test is a whole other layer of licenses etc.

When gasoline (and all other energy bills) get back up to dizzying heights energy audits will just make good sense to everyone. Seeing is believing!

PS I don’t do ANY remediation at all. I strictly stick to Thermal Audits.

Thanks!

Where did you see the standard? Curious if I missed some of the information on this subject.

John Snell is the consultant working with Resnet on their IR standard. And from talking with him I got the impression it is going to be .1C (100mk) and 120x120 resolution minimum. A FLIR B40 FLuke TiR and the Testo 880 all meet that standard, all are sub 5k. I did hear a rumor from a Resnet certifier that it will also require level I certification, or possibly the Resnet IR cert. Which will be another $1695 or so.

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I think I am buying the Minneapolis but haven’t placed my order yet. Fortunately I have been moving in this direction for a few years so I own most of the equipment, minus the blower door. Finished my written test today and am doing my field exam tomorrow. I’m not sure if it was this post but anyone doing energy audits should buy these two books.

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Jason, as far as Resnet an IR, I heard the opposite. They are not interested in thermal imaging.

Has there been any progress on CMEA?

I heard that allot of work is being done and good things are coming.