# Chinese NM cables

**URL:** <https://forum.nachi.org/t/chinese-nm-cables/236889>\
**Category:** Electrical Inspections\
**Created:** [December 13, 2023, 8:03pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/chinese-nm-cables/236889 "2023-12-13T20:03:51Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
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**Author:** ![yzhang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/yzhang/32/57038_2.png) [@yzhang](https://forum.nachi.org/u/yzhang)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2023, 8:03pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/chinese-nm-cables/236889/1 "2023-12-13T20:03:51Z")

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![IMG_6979](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/original/4X/5/2/d/52d253394405eb2e80a7336f2a0192a39764d452.jpeg)  
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Saw these a few weeks ago on a new construction. Threw me off with the different color scheme to the cable/jacket. I sure hope this doesn’t become a problem down the road like the whole Chinese drywall fiasco

> **[Type NM-B Cable, Nonmetallic-Sheathed Cable, Romex Wire, UL Wire](https://www.htwirecable.com/products/ul-certificated-cables/nm-b.html)**
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> Type NM-B (nonmetallic-sheathed cable) may be used for both exposed and concealed work in normally dry locations at temperatures not to exceed 90°C.

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**Author:** ![dgrooters](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/dgrooters/32/413994_2.png) [@dgrooters](https://forum.nachi.org/u/dgrooters)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 12:15am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/chinese-nm-cables/236889/3 "2023-12-14T00:15:51Z")

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Expect to start seeing NM romex cable in different colors. Oddly enough, I haven’t seen red yet.

new Cerrowire colors  
14/2 should stay white  
14/3 will be light blue  
12/2 will stay yellow  
12/3 will be purple

 ![Screen Shot 2023-12-13 at 4.12.41 PM](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/original/4X/b/0/0/b00f568ef18eed2d861cb4df6e2d1ccede647a62.png)

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**Author:** ![jmilby](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/jmilby/32/57038_2.png) [@jmilby](https://forum.nachi.org/u/jmilby)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 3:14am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/chinese-nm-cables/236889/4 "2023-12-14T03:14:15Z")

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Why do you say these are Chinese cables?

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**Author:** ![yzhang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/yzhang/32/57038_2.png) [@yzhang](https://forum.nachi.org/u/yzhang)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 4:45am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/chinese-nm-cables/236889/5 "2023-12-14T04:45:48Z")

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Look at the name on the website logo and bottom of the front page on how to contact them.

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**Author:** ![yzhang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/yzhang/32/57038_2.png) [@yzhang](https://forum.nachi.org/u/yzhang)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 4:49am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/chinese-nm-cables/236889/6 "2023-12-14T04:49:05Z")

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Yea I’ve seen the light blue one before. Haven’t seen purple yet

 ![IMG_7137](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/original/4X/0/2/5/0258412acd870dd2013be1bc6c117d8fd15d9ecd.jpeg)

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**Post date:** [December 14, 2023, 12:10pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/chinese-nm-cables/236889/7 "2023-12-14T12:10:38Z")

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> [@jmilby](#):
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> Why do you say these are Chinese cables?

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**Author:** ![acrowell3](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/acrowell3/32/250399_2.png) [@acrowell3](https://forum.nachi.org/u/acrowell3)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2024, 8:49pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/chinese-nm-cables/236889/8 "2024-05-08T20:49:58Z")

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I’ve Discovered some differences in the NM-B vs NM-D type cables that i would like to bring to the attention of the Nachi community. This seemed like the appropriate place to do this.

The teaching material was routinely calling what i knew to be called “Loomex” by the new to me, name of: NM or Romex, and i had to search this odd new term to learn why the alternative designation was being used or if they were interchangeable. They are close but not quite interchangeable. Back in 2015 the Canadian Electrical Code book permitted the ground wire to be downsized by 1 AWG size. NOT the Neutral (circuit identifier) but the bare ground wire. In order to mes with the Canadian electricians, every 3 years, the Canadian Electrical code puts out a new book. Costing nearly $400 each, but to justify it, this requires changing “Something” and that year it was the ground wire size.

Just something else to be aware of. Heads up.

> **[NM-B vs NM-D](https://forums.mikeholt.com/threads/nm-b-vs-nm-d.72083/)**
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> Over the past holidays, I found myself in Canada in the electrical aisle in one of the home-horror stores.
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> I was intrigued that the "romex" wire looked a bit different, and was called type NMD. On the surface, it appeared to be the same thing as...
