# Christmas Eve Question of the Day **URL:** \ **Category:** Public Archive\ **Created:** [December 24, 2005, 12:00am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/christmas-eve-question-of-the-day/194270 "2005-12-24T00:00:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
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**Originally Posted By: ajalowsky** **This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.** * * * Merry Christmas everyone! * * * ---
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**Originally Posted By: Aimee Jalowsky** **This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.** * * * The answer is grounding receptacle. Lets see if I know why: Ony if it has water within three feet does it have to have a GFCI. Correct? * * * ---
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**Originally Posted By: rcooke** **This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.** * * * I am in the 13% and I am not upset with. Paraskevidekatriaphobia . Roy sr * * * ---
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**Originally Posted By: jpope** **This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.** * * * | **Quote:** | | 2002 NEC 210.8 (A)(6) Kitchens -- where the receptacles are installed to serve counter top surfaces. | All (125 volt, single phase, 15 and 20 amp) receptacles serving kitchen counter tops are required to be GFCI protected. * * * ---
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**Originally Posted By: phinsperger** **This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.** * * * I don’t have any counter tops more than 12" wide but I do have 13 countertops that are 11" wide. They just happen to be side be side and joined together. ![icon_wink.gif](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/original/3X/c/7/c780e395059a8e0dcd430a029eb634655c8f86e8.gif) * * * ---
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**Originally Posted By: Aimee Jalowsky** **This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.** * * * Jeff, I’m assuming the answer needs to be changed then? Has it always been that way? * * * ---
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**Originally Posted By: gbeaumont** **This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.** * * * | **ajalowsky wrote:** | | Jeff, I'm assuming the answer needs to be changed then? Has it always been that way? | Only since 1987 ![icon\_wink.gif](upload://ssT9V5t45yjlgXqiFRXL04eXtqw.gif) Regards Gerry * * * ---
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**Originally Posted By: jpope** **This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.** * * * | **ajalowsky wrote:** | | Jeff, I'm assuming the answer needs to be changed then? | Yes. * * * ---
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**Originally Posted By: jsieg** **This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.** * * * Is it just me or have I been seeing a lot of Questions of the Day that had the wrong answer lately? This one had a long discussion in the BB just a couple of weeks ago didn’t it? Incorrect answer for the Q of the D can be a good thing... It can point out who is & who isn't reading & understanding the posts on the BB. * * * ---
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**Originally Posted By: tallen** **This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.** * * * I think GFCI "protected"receptacle would have worked nicely. * * * ---
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**Originally Posted By: aobrien** **This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.** * * * I think having G.F.C.I in the kitchen is nice, but not required. Some people like to install them if the outlet is close to the sink (2 ft or less) but I have not seen a split G.F.C.I receptacle. Split receptacles are needed in the kitchen to provide 2 15-amp circiuts in one outlet, to provide enough power for toaster,micro etc. * * * ---
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**Originally Posted By: rbrown1** **This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.** * * * It all depends on which Country you live and work in. In the States, Jeff is correct, however, in Canada any kitchen counter that is 12 inches or over and is not within (36" rule in the States) 1 metre or 39.4 inches (Canadian measurement) of a water source, must have an outlet. The year it was installed will determine code compliance. Safety is the key! * * * ---
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**Originally Posted By: bkelly2** **This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.** * * * | **bkelly2 wrote:** | | | **gbeaumont wrote:** | | | **ajalowsky wrote:** | | Jeff, I'm assuming the answer needs to be changed then? Has it always been that way? | Only since 1987 ![icon\_wink.gif](upload://ssT9V5t45yjlgXqiFRXL04eXtqw.gif) Regards Gerry | Gerry, 1987? Are you sure? | * * * ---
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**Originally Posted By: bkelly2** **This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.** * * * | **gbeaumont wrote:** | | | **ajalowsky wrote:** | | Jeff, I'm assuming the answer needs to be changed then? Has it always been that way? | Only since 1987 ![icon\_wink.gif](upload://ssT9V5t45yjlgXqiFRXL04eXtqw.gif) Regards Gerry | Gerry, 1987? Are you sure? * * * ---
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**Originally Posted By: jpope** **This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.** * * * the sink. * * * ---
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**Originally Posted By: mboyett** **This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.** * * * [GFCI.pdf](http://www.nachi.org/bbsystem/usrfiles/G/GFCI.pdf) ) * * * ---
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**Originally Posted By: bkelly2** **This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.** * * * Nice chart Master Po. ![icon_smile.gif](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/original/3X/4/d/4dce0a1c1db0bf5321e5b3270bfbc1b059ae6ef2.gif) * * * ---
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**Originally Posted By: gbeaumont** **This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.** * * * | **jpope wrote:** | | My info says 1996. 1987 is when they were first required for counter top receptacles near the sink. | Jeff is correct, I use the same chart kindly produced by Jerry Peck & Norm Sage, prior to 1996 the distance was within 6 ft Regards Gerry * * * ---
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**Originally Posted By: bkelly2** **This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.** * * * | **Quote:** | | Although not required when originally built, all of the kitchen countertop outlets should be upgraded to have ground fault protection by an electrician, which is mandated by current standards and is an important safety feature. | * * * ---
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**Originally Posted By: gbeaumont** **This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.** * * * | **bkelly2 wrote:** | | I do not understand the need for the chart? ![icon\_confused.gif](upload://qv5zppiN69qCk2Y6JzaFYhrff8S.gif) If I was strictly a code Inspector maybe, but I am not. Even the bottom off the chart reccomends upgrading. I write this for anything pre 2002 | **Quote:** | | Although not required when originally built, all of the kitchen countertop outlets should be upgraded to have ground fault protection by an electrician, which is mandated by current standards and is an important safety feature. | | Ditto Regards Gerry * * * [Next page](https://forum.nachi.org/t/christmas-eve-question-of-the-day/194270.md?page=2)