Originally Posted By: rwand This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.
Mr. Bottoms you broke your word.
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LOL.... yeah, I guess it's time to put this thread to bed, eh? I'll try to refrain from replying to Ray and Roy.
Dave
Just remember for every action there is an opposite reaction. Remember your pyshics class? Oh I forgot you didn't go to school. Nice attempt on your part to refrain from posting and mentioning the names you said you would avoid. So I guess the back and forth posts will continue.
I see you removed your many posts from the CAFE too, nice work considering you have burned your bridges there too and members are realizing what a loser you are. Nothing to add but your diatribes that go no where.
What trash do you want to drag up today, my retirement, the know nothing reporter, the Nachi exam, or the financial situation in OAHI or the any other topic you feel compelled to speak on without knowledge?
Have you threatened anyone today? I realize it is early but your mood swings seem to be getting more frequent.    
Better call up your task master and see what you should say and post next. The only one trashing Nachi seems to by you, you hypocrite.
Out to inspection, later ...
Raymond Wand
Alton, ON
-- The value of experience is not in seeing much,
but in seeing wisely. - Sir William Osler 1905
Originally Posted By: jbushart This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.
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Discuss NACHI's website and services (including the Online Inspector Examination) as well as membership and other topics specific to the NACHI organization. This forum may also contain NACHI updates.
Originally Posted By: clawrenson This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.
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It's is strange to me that You and others would be complaining about me ( A paid NACHI member) who is trying to let other Home Inspectors Know what is happening with ASHI/NORTH trying to take over the Home Inspection Industry In Canada. If they win then this could be the end of NACHI in Canada.
from Roy
Let me try to break this down 1) is the information posted telling only one persons belief or the reality of the situation? - case in point OAHI is not [bold]ASHI North [/bold] - OAHI is in fact a provincial association recognized by CAHPI, also it has a very small handful of ASHI card holding members, and also some NACHI card holding members. It may by association have a background attached to ASHI - but OAHI does not ever meet under the banner of ASHI-Ontario. It does have a OAHI provincial rep that provides input about common home inspection matters. Perhaps one needs to review the history of why CAHI - now CAHPI exists. It represents Canadian home inspectors through recognized provincial associations.
2) How is CAHPI - National trying to take over the home inspection industry? Please substantiate real facts - of such. CAHPI- National must comply with the laws of the land. So what is the real or possibly your perceived threat? Once again your statement assumes much more.
3) What is CAHPI going to win? Secondly, it does not spell the end of NACHI. It seems NACHI has a few good leaders that are capable of keeping NACHI alive in the forefront. It is simply too bad that a few others saw and unfortunately experienced a whole different experience and quickly departed.
4) Why can CAHPI and NACHI not learn to peacefully exist in Canada? My best guess is a few choose to fuel the fire of posting misinformation. Than they jam some of the same "insightful" posts on other forums. Hence the closing, removals or password protection of other forums - who will not tolerate such unsubstantiated allegations.
Perhaps more carefully thought out posts that are sensitive to real accuracy might go a long way in stopping the tirades of hostility brought about by posting and acting in a professional manner.
Airing dirty laundry, personal, or otherwise is not just in poor taste - it seems to immediately invite a nasty response in rebuttal. I hope that we can eventually see a return to peaceful co-existence. I am sure everyone would much rather engage in constructive posts and help resolve problems - not promote and create them.
Originally Posted By: rwand This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.
Claude I think the reason for the type of fear expressed by Mr. Cooke and others is borne out of the fact that some have been saying that CAHPI will be dominating association, and regulating the inspection sector in Canada. Very sound and logical questions about Realtor and Insurance and the legal profession being on the certifying council have gone unanswered, and it is clear no one is willing to discuss that hot topic. So don’t heap the blame solely on one person. The people with the answers are not providing answers because their egos get in the way. That maybe were the perception is coming from. Of course I know that is not true because this National is going to take time to implement and will not be mandatory, nor will there be any influcence with Tarion by the National. There are two distinct governments levels Federal and Provincial. I happen to live in Ontario. There is no way I believe I will have to join CAHPI or anyother association to ply my trade because this is solely provincial jurisdiction. The National is not going to affect my business, it is not going to affect the way I do business and there is no way the National will be able to make me subscribe or anyone else for that matter. The National certainly is beginning to sound like a Federal Government sponsored program that will affect Federal Housing and other Federal jurisdictions only. Whether Nach is part of it by appearance seems some what irrelevent. As to our American friends who have no understanding of the issues and politics it is irrelevent to them. Which begs the question why join Nachi? What has Nachi done for inspectors in Canada and for that matter what has CAHPI done or OAHI? It is beyond me why Canadian Nachi members don’t start there own association. Nachi has shown no respect for its Canadian members, hell they aren’t even willing to abide by their own forum rules. Now the chastise their own knowing nothing about the issues. True gratitude all right. I just wish those in Nachi good luck, you don’t seem to be any better than any other association and I mean all associations. If you can’t look out after your own interests, thus far Nachi is not going to do it for you in Canada nor are the other associations, they are looking out after themselves.
Raymond Wand
Alton, ON
-- The value of experience is not in seeing much,
but in seeing wisely. - Sir William Osler 1905
Originally Posted By: rwand This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.
Roy don’t be dissuaded it seems Mr. Busharts alter ego is Mr. Bottoms. It is a pitty to see another Nachi member taking you to task after all you have done for Nachi. I would also like to point out when Mr. Cooke was a member of Oahi he also pitched in whenever he could willingly which is more than I can say about Mr. Bottoms. Mr. Bottoms only seems willing to help himself.
Raymond Wand
Alton, ON
-- The value of experience is not in seeing much,
but in seeing wisely. - Sir William Osler 1905
Originally Posted By: rcooke This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.
clawrenson wrote:
I think a lot of this ongoing information has boiled
over once again from unresolved issues. I cannot speak for or resolve a
lot of those issues, but on the other hand there are posts that appear to
lead some people off into protection or defensive mode. So I offer yet
another point of view for consideration.
I will use the following as an example:
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It's is strange to me that You and others would be complaining
about me ( A paid NACHI member) who is trying to let other Home
Inspectors Know what is happening with ASHI/NORTH trying to take over the Home Inspection Industry In Canada. If they win then this could be
the end of NACHI in Canada.
from Roy
Let me try to break this down 1) is the information posted telling only
one persons belief or the reality of the situation? - case in point OAHI is
not NACHI North - OAHI is in fact a provincial association recognized by
CAHPI, also it has a very small handful of ASHI card holding members,
and also some NACHI card holding members. It may by association
2) How is CAHPI - National trying to take over the home inspection
industry? Please substantiate real facts - of such.
3) What is CAHPI going to win? Secondly, it does not spell the end of NACHI.
4) Why can CAHPI and NACHI not learn to peacefully exist in Canada?
My best guess is a few choose to fuel the fire of posting misinformation.
Perhaps more carefully thought out posts that are sensitive to real
accuracy might go a long way in stopping the tirades of hostility brought about by posting and acting in a professional manner.
Airing dirty laundry, personal, or otherwise is not just in poor taste
Regards, Claude
Thanks for your reply Claude but I feel you too are not providing the
full story . Does ASHI not use The SOP of ASHI .
Does not ASHI allow RHI's from OAHI to join ASHI no exam just
send in the money and instantly become a full member of ASHI.
Is Steve Gladston past Pres of ASHI not the Liason for ASHI to CAHPI.
This sure sounds to me that ASHI and CAHPI/OAHI are closer then
Kissing cousins.
I feel many are lacking Ethics. You have chastised me more then once
for my posts . But I have never seen you say a word about Dave Bottoms
or Bill Mullen who have posted far worse mean things by far about
members. How about fair play stop showing favoritism.
Bill Mullen said inspectors MUST BELONG TO CAHPI if they hope to
make a living in the Home inspection industry.
Dave Bottoms a Visitor at the NACHI site continues to try and make it
his own . He feels I should not be allowed to post on the site I help pay for and Dave is a self pointed
guest who feels should be able
to say things here that he could never
get away with on the CANUK list or the OAHI CAFE.
It would be so nice if all the information was put out for all
inspectors to peruse and get some ideas on what he future holds.
lets stop the secrets.
Roy Cooke sr A paying member that helps support this forum.
Dave the continues to run down NACHI here and many other places .
Originally Posted By: rcooke This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.
Dave Bottoms wrote:
Proposal:
Okay, how about this: We all agree to stop this stupid freakin' pissing match. Come on already, you CAN'T tell me you don't have anything else better to do? You must realize no matter who says what, we all end up looking like idiots.
Tomorrow is another day. It doesn't have to be a continuation of today or last week. Anyone think they've got what it takes to rise to the occasion?
Dave
Typical Dave run away and hide remove posts try to make the other
guy look bad . Dave I have asked you questions you never answer.
I post facts you never dispute what I say you just go into a tangent
and blame every one . We do have a problem and you have never
even considered it Just follow Roy and call him a liar . Dave I am
sure when you where a little boy the all said OH! look at Dave he is
the Only one in step well Dave you still are the only one in step
Please read my first post and tell me where I made a mistake .
I am quite willing to debate the subject with you but you have to
get rid of your tunnel vision and look at the future .
Roy Cooke A NACHI Member
Originally Posted By: rwand This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.
Hey Rick Knowsnothing
Why don't you post under your real name? Thats okay we know its you Gil you always come up with the most silly names. But I like Rick Knowsnothing the best of all. It even beats out Agatha Potapinski.
Raymond Wand
Alton, ON
-- The value of experience is not in seeing much,
but in seeing wisely. - Sir William Osler 1905