# Crouse-Hinds panel **URL:** \ **Category:** Electrical Inspections\ **Created:** [June 20, 2026, 4:07am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/crouse-hinds-panel/268487 "2026-06-20T04:07:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![ggilbert](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/ggilbert/32/184784_2.png) [@ggilbert](https://forum.nachi.org/u/ggilbert)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2026, 12:37am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/crouse-hinds-panel/268487/21 "2026-06-21T00:37:34Z")
Thank you David ---
**Author:** ![jjonas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/jjonas/32/301755_2.png) [@jjonas](https://forum.nachi.org/u/jjonas)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2026, 12:44am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/crouse-hinds-panel/268487/22 "2026-06-21T00:44:02Z")
I didn’t notice on my first glance when you posted this pic… ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/original/4X/8/d/a/8dafecfd6cf15a4c4eca41848bd79ae7bd4e31d0.jpeg) What’s with all the friggin’ **GOOP** that’s contaminating the upper panel and conductors…?? (Click the pic to Zoom in)… ![Goop](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/original/4X/1/0/5/10577db6afb394f8b8f29577430ebf0e214243e7.jpeg) Anyone? @gwells @rmeier2 ---
**Author:** ![dfreund](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/dfreund/32/339074_2.png) [@dfreund](https://forum.nachi.org/u/dfreund)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2026, 12:46am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/crouse-hinds-panel/268487/23 "2026-06-21T00:46:56Z")
> [@ggilbert](#): > > is what I found and don’t seem scorched 1st pic: top arrow is melted plastic indicating excessive heat (scorching involved), bottom arrow is indication of excessive heating/arcing capable of melting metal and the metal is somewhat melted/scorched ![Untitled](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/original/4X/5/8/1/581c6a3272751b8e8d38a53a18aac751248b0417.jpeg) 2nd pic: excessive arcing indications / melted metal / pitted / possible metal transfer from alleged prior breaker ![Untitled](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/original/4X/2/d/3/2d3352a23dbd5b42a16ee0b2cf4a3b5b003f2eff.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![ggilbert](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/ggilbert/32/184784_2.png) [@ggilbert](https://forum.nachi.org/u/ggilbert)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2026, 12:55am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/crouse-hinds-panel/268487/24 "2026-06-21T00:55:00Z")
Ok I see it, Could it be a possibility they may have overloaded the panel and causing the last main breaker to melt so they moved the next 100amp to the circuit breaker slots? ---
**Author:** ![ggilbert](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/ggilbert/32/184784_2.png) [@ggilbert](https://forum.nachi.org/u/ggilbert)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2026, 12:57am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/crouse-hinds-panel/268487/25 "2026-06-21T00:57:58Z")
It was almost like a hardened silicone, I noticed that also and I assumed they sealed those connections because of spray foam, I am just guessing that because I see spray foam making its way in from other openings. It was hardened, I touched it because I thought it was grease at first, almost like a hardened syrup or candy coated ---
**Author:** ![dfreund](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/dfreund/32/339074_2.png) [@dfreund](https://forum.nachi.org/u/dfreund)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2026, 1:09am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/crouse-hinds-panel/268487/26 "2026-06-21T01:09:38Z")
> [@ggilbert](#): > > Could it be a possibility they may have overloaded the panel and causing the last main breaker to melt so they moved the next 100amp Anything is possible. There appeared to be an overheating / arcing event that happened in that panel. That’s what you’ll want to report on during an actual inspection. Stay away from spending time figuring out why, ie. causation. We’re not required to determine causation of a defect. Just report on the actual defect(s) you observed. > [@ggilbert](#): > > It was almost like a hardened silicone, I noticed that also and I assumed they sealed those connections because of spray foam Here’s my Crouse-Hinds sub panel from Thursday’s inspection. It was a mess as well. They used caulking in some areas where strain relief clamps should have been installed. There were MANY issues in this panel. I wrote very hard on the electrical in this home 😉 ![IMG_0477](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/original/4X/1/8/a/18a24943d61146a911f85832f015e33d23eb4cb1.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![jjonas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/jjonas/32/301755_2.png) [@jjonas](https://forum.nachi.org/u/jjonas)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2026, 1:09am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/crouse-hinds-panel/268487/27 "2026-06-21T01:09:42Z")
> [@ggilbert](#): > > Could it be a possibility they may have overloaded the panel and causing the last main breaker to melt so they moved the next 100amp to the circuit breaker slots? That was my first thought. My second is… where is the (Back-fed) Breaker **Lock** for the 100A breaker? I see where it is for the Original breaker that was removed, but cannot see one for the replacement! ---
**Author:** ![ruecker](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/ruecker/32/357170_2.png) [@ruecker](https://forum.nachi.org/u/ruecker)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2026, 1:13am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/crouse-hinds-panel/268487/28 "2026-06-21T01:13:43Z")
> [@jjonas](#): > > What’s with all the friggin’ **GOOP** that’s contaminating the upper panel and conductors…??.. I hope to hell there isn’t a giant bee hive in the wall above that panel, but it almost looks like honey. ---
**Author:** ![jjonas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/jjonas/32/301755_2.png) [@jjonas](https://forum.nachi.org/u/jjonas)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2026, 1:18am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/crouse-hinds-panel/268487/29 "2026-06-21T01:18:10Z")
> [@dfreund](#): > > That’s what you’ll want to report on during an actual inspection. > [@ggilbert](#): > > I looked up the year this property was built, in 1981 I agree with David. With everything observed, I would refer it to a qualified Licensed Electrician for _“further evaluation and repairs, which may include replacement of the Panel, Breaker(s), Conductors entering the panel due to damage and contamination, and any other components necessary as determined by the Electrician.”_ ---
**Author:** ![ggilbert](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/ggilbert/32/184784_2.png) [@ggilbert](https://forum.nachi.org/u/ggilbert)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2026, 1:18am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/crouse-hinds-panel/268487/30 "2026-06-21T01:18:59Z")
I studied on the breaker lock today but I don’t know how to tell if it’s there except by removing the breaker beside the 100amp, although I have no knowledge about the breaker lock kit except for what I googled earlier today. ---
**Author:** ![jjonas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/jjonas/32/301755_2.png) [@jjonas](https://forum.nachi.org/u/jjonas)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2026, 1:20am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/crouse-hinds-panel/268487/31 "2026-06-21T01:20:47Z")
> [@ggilbert](#): > > but I don’t know That why you defer it to a qualified Electrician. That’s what they get paid the big bucks for! ---
**Author:** ![ggilbert](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/ggilbert/32/184784_2.png) [@ggilbert](https://forum.nachi.org/u/ggilbert)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2026, 1:24am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/crouse-hinds-panel/268487/32 "2026-06-21T01:24:50Z")
It is interior wall, placed in middle of unit right near the units separation wall or party wall. Not saying that eliminates bees but, also panel is on first floor, and there is a second floor above it. But maybe that’s why they spray foamed around the panel ---
**Author:** ![ruecker](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/ruecker/32/357170_2.png) [@ruecker](https://forum.nachi.org/u/ruecker)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2026, 1:26am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/crouse-hinds-panel/268487/33 "2026-06-21T01:26:29Z")
> [@ggilbert](#): > > It is interior wall, placed in middle of unit right near the units separation wall or party wall. Not saying that eliminates bees but, also panel is on first floor, and there is a second floor above it… Yeah, probably not. On closer look, it looks like grease. Not sure why anyone would do that. My two guesses are to stop moisture intrusion, or to try to prevent spray foam from coming in, which you already mentioned. ---
**Author:** ![ggilbert](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/ggilbert/32/184784_2.png) [@ggilbert](https://forum.nachi.org/u/ggilbert)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2026, 1:27am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/crouse-hinds-panel/268487/34 "2026-06-21T01:27:10Z")
Got it! I have to stop trying to figure everything out. Name the issue and move on. ---
**Author:** ![ggilbert](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/ggilbert/32/184784_2.png) [@ggilbert](https://forum.nachi.org/u/ggilbert)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2026, 1:29am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/crouse-hinds-panel/268487/35 "2026-06-21T01:29:35Z")
Oh! Good point, there is a bathroom directly above, the panel was in a closet on first level within a bathroom then upstairs bathroom practically stacked right on top of lower bathroom ---
**Author:** ![ruecker](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/ruecker/32/357170_2.png) [@ruecker](https://forum.nachi.org/u/ruecker)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2026, 1:33am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/crouse-hinds-panel/268487/36 "2026-06-21T01:33:43Z")
> [@ggilbert](#): > > the panel was in a closet.. > [@ggilbert](#): > > within a bathroom Another good reason to call out for an electrician. Was it a clothes closet or a closet where flammable materials might be stored, like towels? Was the panel clearance space compromised? And panels should not be in bathrooms. ---
**Author:** ![ggilbert](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/ggilbert/32/184784_2.png) [@ggilbert](https://forum.nachi.org/u/ggilbert)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2026, 1:36am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/crouse-hinds-panel/268487/37 "2026-06-21T01:36:07Z")
Would you be able to answer me if I asked can these breakers be double tapped, I feel like I see some breakers with the plunging screw that obviously clamps one wire and then some breakers with the pan head screw that looks like it may clamp down 2 wires? I feel like I could feel your pain with the long hard writing of the report on this system ![IMG_6645](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/original/4X/2/e/4/2e4555a56a3c50d5df17231102b5e8bf5392e5f7.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![ggilbert](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/ggilbert/32/184784_2.png) [@ggilbert](https://forum.nachi.org/u/ggilbert)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2026, 1:38am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/crouse-hinds-panel/268487/38 "2026-06-21T01:38:57Z")
It was a 2x4 closet with elect. panel and water heater behind sliding bypass doors, in bathroom but half bath, only toilet and vanity ---
**Author:** ![jjonas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/jjonas/32/301755_2.png) [@jjonas](https://forum.nachi.org/u/jjonas)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2026, 1:42am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/crouse-hinds-panel/268487/39 "2026-06-21T01:42:07Z")
> [@ruecker](#): > > Was it a clothes closet or a closet where flammable materials might be stored, like towels? What’s the difference?? ---
**Author:** ![jjonas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/jjonas/32/301755_2.png) [@jjonas](https://forum.nachi.org/u/jjonas)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2026, 1:45am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/crouse-hinds-panel/268487/40 "2026-06-21T01:45:28Z")
> [@ggilbert](#): > > Would you be able to answer me if I asked can these breakers be double tapped, **NO!** > [@Square D breakers w/ multiple taps](https://forum.nachi.org/t/square-d-breakers-w-multiple-taps/221282/4): > > [image] [image] If it has a saddle clamp it’s OK. Documentation? Don’t know cowboy_hat_face **And, a warning to be aware of…** > [@Square D breakers w/ multiple taps](https://forum.nachi.org/t/square-d-breakers-w-multiple-taps/221282/20): > > I could be wrong, but I think stranded conductors may not be allowed for use in saddled breakers for that exact, and other, reason(s)! To continue this thread, as I think the subject is important, and many inspectors repeatedly get it wrong… Conversationally… Considering that both scenarios below are wrong… which is ‘more’ dangerous…?? [Previous page](https://forum.nachi.org/t/crouse-hinds-panel/268487.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forum.nachi.org/t/crouse-hinds-panel/268487.md?page=3)