# Determining the age of an eletrical panel

**URL:** <https://forum.nachi.org/t/determining-the-age-of-an-eletrical-panel/125975>\
**Category:** Misc. Discussion\
**Created:** [September 11, 2018, 2:33pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/determining-the-age-of-an-eletrical-panel/125975 "2018-09-11T14:33:49Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 5\
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**Author:** ![ggarcia3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecc23a/32.png) [@ggarcia3](https://forum.nachi.org/u/ggarcia3)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 2:33pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/determining-the-age-of-an-eletrical-panel/125975/1 "2018-09-11T14:33:49Z")

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With the new citizens 4-point form they ask for the age of the main panel. I’ve been finding that some homes have upgraded panels but did not pull permits. So my question is how to determine the age of the panel if a can’t find a date code on the panel or a permit number?

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**Author:** ![jjonas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/jjonas/32/301755_2.png) [@jjonas](https://forum.nachi.org/u/jjonas)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 3:32pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/determining-the-age-of-an-eletrical-panel/125975/2 "2018-09-11T15:32:52Z")

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In my Non-Floridian opinion… if the panel was replaced without a permit, it was replaced illegally, thus there was no recognized replacement, so it is still original to the home build. Tuff-titties to the offender!

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**Author:** ![rlewis5](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/rlewis5/32/337040_2.png) [@rlewis5](https://forum.nachi.org/u/rlewis5)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 3:40pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/determining-the-age-of-an-eletrical-panel/125975/3 "2018-09-11T15:40:38Z")

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> [@jjonas](#):
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> In my Non-Floridian opinion… if the panel was replaced without a permit, it was replaced illegally, thus there was no recognized replacement, so it is still original to the home build. Tuff-titties to the offender!

Yep!

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**Author:** ![ggarcia3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecc23a/32.png) [@ggarcia3](https://forum.nachi.org/u/ggarcia3)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 7:34pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/determining-the-age-of-an-eletrical-panel/125975/4 "2018-09-11T19:34:44Z")

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Thanks for the advice.

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**Author:** ![rlewis5](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/rlewis5/32/337040_2.png) [@rlewis5](https://forum.nachi.org/u/rlewis5)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2018, 9:14pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/determining-the-age-of-an-eletrical-panel/125975/5 "2018-09-11T21:14:45Z")

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JJ is correct… No permit no credit.  
However, My question to you is…  
How do you know that no permit was pulled?