# Does InterNACHI do better in licensed or unlicensed states? **URL:** \ **Category:** Legislation, Licensing, Ethics & Legal Issues\ **Created:** [April 26, 2012, 11:15pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/does-internachi-do-better-in-licensed-or-unlicensed-states/68733 "2012-04-26T23:15:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![gromicko](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/gromicko/32/58172_2.png) [@gromicko](https://forum.nachi.org/u/gromicko)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2012, 11:15pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/does-internachi-do-better-in-licensed-or-unlicensed-states/68733/1 "2012-04-26T23:15:44Z")
Top 12 InterNACHI markets in order: 1. Florida: Licensed. 2. Ontario: Unlicensed. 3. California: Unlicensed. 4. Texas: Licensed. 5. New York: Licensed. 6. Colorado: Unlicensed. 7. Pennsylvania: Regulated. 8. Georgia: Unlicensed. 9. Alberta: Licensed. 10. Illinois: Licensed. 11. Ohio: Unlicensed. 12. Washington: Licensed. ---
**Author:** ![gromicko](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/gromicko/32/58172_2.png) [@gromicko](https://forum.nachi.org/u/gromicko)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2012, 11:16pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/does-internachi-do-better-in-licensed-or-unlicensed-states/68733/2 "2012-04-26T23:16:01Z")
Notice a pattern? ---
**Author:** ![gromicko](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/gromicko/32/58172_2.png) [@gromicko](https://forum.nachi.org/u/gromicko)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2012, 11:19pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/does-internachi-do-better-in-licensed-or-unlicensed-states/68733/3 "2012-04-26T23:19:08Z")
Neither do I… because there isn’t one. InterNACHI does well in licensed and unlicensed markets. ---
**Author:** ![dedwards](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e95f7d/32.png) [@dedwards](https://forum.nachi.org/u/dedwards)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2012, 11:36pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/does-internachi-do-better-in-licensed-or-unlicensed-states/68733/4 "2012-04-26T23:36:20Z")
After reading the thread title and before I even read the post, I said to myself, “I don’t think it really matters”. Because, frankly, licensing hasn’t solved a thing. All the same concerns \*\*_of the home inspectors_ \*\*are still there. Licensing has only muddied the water, placed new unnecessary restrictions to no end but costs the businessmen money, time and at least in FL it is froth with confusion, contradictory elements within the law and I can hardly wait to see the SOP. Nick, we (FAPHI) talked about this stuff well over 7 yrs ago. Everything we said would happen has come to past and I suspect things we never even thought of are yet to come. I am not sure why some think a board is going to do what the law failed to accomplish. ---
**Author:** ![cwalsh](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/cwalsh/32/59399_2.png) [@cwalsh](https://forum.nachi.org/u/cwalsh)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 1:15am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/does-internachi-do-better-in-licensed-or-unlicensed-states/68733/5 "2012-04-27T01:15:37Z")
Doug … That’s funny, because I thought the same thing when I read the title on this thread, that I don’t think it matters ! I just left a meeting with the owner of a RE Brokerage, after booking an inspection and he was impressed with InterNACHI. I don’t think he really cared if HI’s are licensed or not or what Association you belong to, as long as the HI is thorough and professional. He invited me to the next RE Agent meeting. ---
**Author:** ![jjonas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/jjonas/32/301755_2.png) [@jjonas](https://forum.nachi.org/u/jjonas)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 1:53am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/does-internachi-do-better-in-licensed-or-unlicensed-states/68733/6 "2012-04-27T01:53:11Z")
> [@gromicko](#): > > Notice a pattern? Yes… they’re all states with higher populations. Low population states get the shaft! :shock: Just sayin’. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![clawrenson](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/clawrenson/32/121308_2.png) [@clawrenson](https://forum.nachi.org/u/clawrenson)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 2:08am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/does-internachi-do-better-in-licensed-or-unlicensed-states/68733/7 "2012-04-27T02:08:29Z")
> [@cwalsh](#): > > Doug … That’s funny, because I thought the same thing when I read the title on this thread, that I don’t think it matters ! I just left a meeting with the owner of a RE Brokerage, after booking an inspection and he was impressed with InterNACHI.\*\* I don’t think he really cared if HI’s are licensed or not or what Association you belong to, as long as the HI is thorough and professional.\*\* He invited me to the next RE Agent meeting. Bingo…!!! ---
**Author:** ![gfarnsworth](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/gfarnsworth/32/179646_2.png) [@gfarnsworth](https://forum.nachi.org/u/gfarnsworth)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 2:09am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/does-internachi-do-better-in-licensed-or-unlicensed-states/68733/8 "2012-04-27T02:09:28Z")
Take the populations in those states, and divide it by the number of InterNACHI inspectors. Then do the ranking. Licensing has so dumbed-down our profession that most RE’s no longer suggest home inspections because of the basic, minimum SOP’s and state standards that ASHI pushed into play, and the RE’s wanted. Now they brag about how most inspectors write soft, basic reports, and charge cheap prices. Cheap is cheap. Here, price is all that matters, even if you do get a call at all. Those that do business here, and most other states, pay for vendor lists, contests, and RE office food to get any business at all. You know the drill. It has been discussed here many times. Answer is neither. ---
**Author:** ![ccurrins](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/ccurrins/32/225758_2.png) [@ccurrins](https://forum.nachi.org/u/ccurrins)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 3:03am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/does-internachi-do-better-in-licensed-or-unlicensed-states/68733/9 "2012-04-27T03:03:26Z")
> [@jjonas](#): > > Yes… they’re all states with higher populations. Low population states get the shaft! :shock: > > Just sayin’. 😉 And right you are. 😃 [Rank by Populations](http://www.ipl.org/div/stateknow/popchart.html) ---
**Author:** ![jjimenez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a87d85/32.png) [@jjimenez](https://forum.nachi.org/u/jjimenez)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 3:26am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/does-internachi-do-better-in-licensed-or-unlicensed-states/68733/10 "2012-04-27T03:26:36Z")
Almost all of my competition is ASHI. We need a higher NACHI presence in VA ---
**Author:** ![jjonas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/jjonas/32/301755_2.png) [@jjonas](https://forum.nachi.org/u/jjonas)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 3:57am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/does-internachi-do-better-in-licensed-or-unlicensed-states/68733/11 "2012-04-27T03:57:08Z")
> [@ccurrins](#): > > And right you are. 😃 > > [Rank by Populations](http://www.ipl.org/div/stateknow/popchart.html) [http://www.nachi.org/capita2009.htm](http://www.nachi.org/capita2009.htm) Minnesota (land of NAHI & ASHI & IHINA)… Population 5.2 million… current Nachi members… **65** ---
**Author:** ![ccurrins](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/ccurrins/32/225758_2.png) [@ccurrins](https://forum.nachi.org/u/ccurrins)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 5:19am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/does-internachi-do-better-in-licensed-or-unlicensed-states/68733/12 "2012-04-27T05:19:14Z")
> [@jjonas](#): > > [http://www.nachi.org/capita2009.htm](http://www.nachi.org/capita2009.htm) Illinois is **16** per million and considered \*\*STRONG. **OK** :roll: \*\* ---
**Author:** ![gromicko](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/gromicko/32/58172_2.png) [@gromicko](https://forum.nachi.org/u/gromicko)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 6:22am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/does-internachi-do-better-in-licensed-or-unlicensed-states/68733/13 "2012-04-27T06:22:03Z")
Updated using April 27, 2012 membership data: [www.nachi.org/per-capita-statistics.htm](http://www.nachi.org/per-capita-statistics.htm) ---
**Author:** ![gfarnsworth](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/gfarnsworth/32/179646_2.png) [@gfarnsworth](https://forum.nachi.org/u/gfarnsworth)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 3:25pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/does-internachi-do-better-in-licensed-or-unlicensed-states/68733/14 "2012-04-27T15:25:55Z")
Now that is informational. Good job, Nick. Seems that alot of states have very few members, and ASHI must be the strongest in those. A little InterNACHI marketing would help us. ---
**Author:** ![gromicko](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/gromicko/32/58172_2.png) [@gromicko](https://forum.nachi.org/u/gromicko)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 3:52pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/does-internachi-do-better-in-licensed-or-unlicensed-states/68733/15 "2012-04-27T15:52:31Z")
ASHI is now down to about 1/3 of our membership and of those few left, 25% are also InterNACHI. ---
**Author:** ![bking](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/bking/32/624_2.png) [@bking](https://forum.nachi.org/u/bking)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 5:07pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/does-internachi-do-better-in-licensed-or-unlicensed-states/68733/16 "2012-04-27T17:07:04Z")
> [@gromicko](#): > > Updated using April 27, 2012 membership data: [Interesting per capita statistics for inspectors in North America. - InterNACHI®](http://www.nachi.org/per-capita-statistics.htm) MN is listed two times and MT is not listed, looks like the 2nd MN should be MT… ---
**Author:** ![ccurrins](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/ccurrins/32/225758_2.png) [@ccurrins](https://forum.nachi.org/u/ccurrins)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 6:27pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/does-internachi-do-better-in-licensed-or-unlicensed-states/68733/17 "2012-04-27T18:27:13Z")
> [@bking](#): > > MN is listed two times and MT is not listed, looks like the 2nd MN should be MT… MN numbers do not match either comparing chart and list at top. Minnesota: 14,606 consumers per member. MN **Consumers per member** 59,550 ---
**Author:** ![gromicko](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/gromicko/32/58172_2.png) [@gromicko](https://forum.nachi.org/u/gromicko)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 6:53pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/does-internachi-do-better-in-licensed-or-unlicensed-states/68733/18 "2012-04-27T18:53:42Z")
Fixed, thanks. ---
**Author:** ![jjonas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/jjonas/32/301755_2.png) [@jjonas](https://forum.nachi.org/u/jjonas)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 7:18pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/does-internachi-do-better-in-licensed-or-unlicensed-states/68733/19 "2012-04-27T19:18:21Z")
> [@bking](#): > > MN is listed two times and MT is not listed, looks like the 2nd MN should be MT… I assumed the second one was Manitoba, Canada.😉 ---
**Author:** ![jjonas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/jjonas/32/301755_2.png) [@jjonas](https://forum.nachi.org/u/jjonas)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2012, 7:19pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/does-internachi-do-better-in-licensed-or-unlicensed-states/68733/20 "2012-04-27T19:19:40Z")
> [@ccurrins](#): > > MN numbers do not match either comparing chart and list at top. > > Minnesota: 14,606 consumers per member. > > MN **Consumers per member** 59,550 Told you lower population states get the shaft! :mrgreen: [Next page](https://forum.nachi.org/t/does-internachi-do-better-in-licensed-or-unlicensed-states/68733.md?page=2)