# Dumbas$ Michael Rowan already lost the book I gave him.

**URL:** <https://forum.nachi.org/t/dumbas-michael-rowan-already-lost-the-book-i-gave-him/10704>\
**Category:** Misc. Discussion\
**Created:** [December 15, 2006, 7:41am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/dumbas-michael-rowan-already-lost-the-book-i-gave-him/10704 "2006-12-15T07:41:21Z")\
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**Author:** ![gromicko](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/gromicko/32/58172_2.png) [@gromicko](https://forum.nachi.org/u/gromicko)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2006, 7:41am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/dumbas-michael-rowan-already-lost-the-book-i-gave-him/10704/1 "2006-12-15T07:41:21Z")

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I gave Michael the following book a couple weeks back:

_ **How to Implement a Top-Notch Professional Designation for the Home Inspection Industry** _

_ **A Step by Step Guide** _

I told you not to lose it Michael!!! It was our only copy. Now what are we going to do?

😉

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**Author:** ![rcooke](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/rcooke/32/57038_2.png) [@rcooke](https://forum.nachi.org/u/rcooke)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2006, 11:21am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/dumbas-michael-rowan-already-lost-the-book-i-gave-him/10704/2 "2006-12-15T11:21:03Z")

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> [@gromicko](#):
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> I gave Michael the following book a couple weeks back:
> 
> _ **How to Implement a Top-Notch Professional Designation for the Home Inspection Industry** _
> 
> _ **A Step by Step Guide** _
> 
> I told you not to lose it Michael!!! It was our only copy. Now what are we going to do?
> 
> 😉

Wecome to the real world Michael been there for years ,  
you will find a great many good people are here too.

Cookie

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**Author:** ![mrowan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d07c76/32.png) [@mrowan](https://forum.nachi.org/u/mrowan)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2006, 8:21pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/dumbas-michael-rowan-already-lost-the-book-i-gave-him/10704/3 "2006-12-15T20:21:26Z")

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Nick

The problem is that when I got to step 947 I could not remember what the first 946 steps were! It was as if I was going around in circles!!

M

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**Author:** ![jmckenna1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/jmckenna1/32/719_2.png) [@jmckenna1](https://forum.nachi.org/u/jmckenna1)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2006, 8:33pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/dumbas-michael-rowan-already-lost-the-book-i-gave-him/10704/4 "2006-12-15T20:33:21Z")

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Nick,

It does not give me a good feeling to hear you call  
Michael Rowan a Dumbas$ on the open forum?

Is this just a joke or are you preparing us for some bad news?

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**Author:** ![gromicko](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/gromicko/32/58172_2.png) [@gromicko](https://forum.nachi.org/u/gromicko)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2006, 8:38pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/dumbas-michael-rowan-already-lost-the-book-i-gave-him/10704/5 "2006-12-15T20:38:32Z")

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Uh, it was a joke. A joke to just remind everyone that we don’t really have a Step by Step Guide.

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**Author:** ![gluck](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/gluck/32/1787_2.png) [@gluck](https://forum.nachi.org/u/gluck)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2006, 9:00pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/dumbas-michael-rowan-already-lost-the-book-i-gave-him/10704/6 "2006-12-15T21:00:07Z")

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NO STEP BY STEP GUIDE??!?  
DAMN!  
I was just getting ready to order 500 and have them delivered to Canada by U.P.S.

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**Author:** ![jmckenna1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/jmckenna1/32/719_2.png) [@jmckenna1](https://forum.nachi.org/u/jmckenna1)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2006, 9:01pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/dumbas-michael-rowan-already-lost-the-book-i-gave-him/10704/7 "2006-12-15T21:01:24Z")

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It seems the humor has some taints of truth also… in this regard.

One of the primary goals of CMI (as Nick has stated) is to promote  
a way for educational vendors to promote achievement and thus  
help supply income to those vendors. I see this as OK, since  
more education is not going to hurt the inspection industry.  
Money moves things and it is not evil in itself. We are all here  
for profit and desire to succeed.

But one of the problems with CMI has been the vocal complaints  
from SOME that CMI needs even higher qualification in order  
to make it more creditable. The low numbers of the present  
CMI numbers appear to show that not much is happening.  
If you assume this idea, then it’s easy to start from this premise  
and talk about CMI as needing changes.

As Michael is finding out, some of those who want to make it  
more restrictive are indeed going to make it less successful  
in helping the education vendors have a market to sell to.

If the present CMI standards restrict the market share of  
potential inspectors to approx. 5%… then making the CMI  
standards twice has hard may indeed doom the educational  
potential altogether.

Since Michael stated that a “business plan” must be put in  
place for CMI… this rude reality has come into his focus by now.

The CMI naysayers who want to make it harder, do not  
have a track record of building market innovations like Nick.  
Nick has already factored into the present CMI standards  
a balance between marketability and creditability.

Perhaps the problem is not the current CMI standards, but  
the marketing of CMI to the naysaysers entrenched resentments  
of NACHI and its founder, Nick (the guy some love to hate).

Perhaps the problem is marketing and not qualifications.

If marketing to 5% of the inspector industry seems slow,  
perhaps it’s part of the tiny turf to begin with. Why make  
it any smaller?

And… this tiny 5% is an experienced inspector community  
that has lost its novice fantasy about being an inspector.  
When marketing to the huge market base of newbie dreamers,  
it looks easy. CMI is a different sell altogether.

IMHO.

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**Author:** ![jbushart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@jbushart](https://forum.nachi.org/u/jbushart)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2006, 9:04pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/dumbas-michael-rowan-already-lost-the-book-i-gave-him/10704/8 "2006-12-15T21:04:36Z")

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Better read about the new association Rowan just announced…called CMI. It already has a chapter in Florida.

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**Author:** ![gromicko](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/gromicko/32/58172_2.png) [@gromicko](https://forum.nachi.org/u/gromicko)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2006, 9:22pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/dumbas-michael-rowan-already-lost-the-book-i-gave-him/10704/9 "2006-12-15T21:22:54Z")

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We will need an association if we want to do group marketing.

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**Author:** ![jbushart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@jbushart](https://forum.nachi.org/u/jbushart)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2006, 9:26pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/dumbas-michael-rowan-already-lost-the-book-i-gave-him/10704/10 "2006-12-15T21:26:19Z")

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> [@gromicko](#):
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> We will need an association if we want to do group marketing.

I understood your earlier posts to be clear that it was not an association. When did this cahnge?

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**Author:** ![rcooke](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/rcooke/32/57038_2.png) [@rcooke](https://forum.nachi.org/u/rcooke)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2006, 12:09am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/dumbas-michael-rowan-already-lost-the-book-i-gave-him/10704/11 "2006-12-16T00:09:31Z")

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I think there are really 4 groups .  
#1 those who are CMIs.  
#2 those who want to CMIs  
#3 those those who do not want to be a CMI  
#4 those those who could care less about being a CMI.  
#4 is the most vocal and I think they make all the noise to cover up how  
Jealous they are of those who are a CMI.  
Hang here comes the blast from the jealous ones

Cookie

SEE James even I can stir the pot too

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**Author:** ![pabernathy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/pabernathy/32/178230_2.png) [@pabernathy](https://forum.nachi.org/u/pabernathy)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2006, 10:30pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/dumbas-michael-rowan-already-lost-the-book-i-gave-him/10704/12 "2006-12-16T22:30:07Z")

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Nick…I hope you made copies of that BOOK…as it seems the chapter where I know more than everyone else on the subject needs editing…seems I am an expert on the CMI…without posting anything about the CMI…lol

Which chapter am I listed in…?

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**Author:** ![rcooke](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/rcooke/32/57038_2.png) [@rcooke](https://forum.nachi.org/u/rcooke)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2006, 11:00pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/dumbas-michael-rowan-already-lost-the-book-i-gave-him/10704/13 "2006-12-16T23:00:29Z")

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> [@pabernathy](#):
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> Nick…I hope you made copies of that BOOK…as it seems the chapter where I know more than everyone else on the subject needs editing…seems I am an expert on the CMI…without posting anything about the CMI…lol
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> Which chapter am I listed in…?

I think I found the book unfortunately it got wet and now it is impossible to read .  
I guess every one will have to take your word for what was written .  
I know we all trust you Paul so what ever you say will be taken as Gospel . any trouble tell them Cookie said it was OK. !

Cookie

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**Author:** ![wforsyth](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/wforsyth/32/510_2.png) [@wforsyth](https://forum.nachi.org/u/wforsyth)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2006, 2:53am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/dumbas-michael-rowan-already-lost-the-book-i-gave-him/10704/14 "2006-12-17T02:53:08Z")

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think there are really 4 groups .  
#1 those who are CMIs.  
#2 those who want to CMIs  
#3 those those who do not want to be a CMI  
#4 those those who could care less about being a CMI.  
#4 is the most vocal and I think they make all the noise to cover up how  
Jealous they are of those who are a CMI.  
Hang here comes the blast from the jealous ones

Cookie

LOL! If number four couldn’t care less, why would they be jealous?

I think it would be number two because they want to be CMI. But only if they can’t be CMI.
