# EGC Bypassed the Service Panel **URL:** \ **Category:** Electrical Inspections\ **Created:** [February 17, 2012, 7:09pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/egc-bypassed-the-service-panel/66881 "2012-02-17T19:09:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![krigler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/838e76/32.png) [@krigler](https://forum.nachi.org/u/krigler)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2012, 7:09pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/egc-bypassed-the-service-panel/66881/1 "2012-02-17T19:09:20Z")
Hey Guys- This is the first time I’ve seen the EGC bypass the service panel. The installation was 1984. Was this something that was allowed back then? There was a smaller grounding conductor that went from the meter to the service panel. The first distribution panel was nicely wired, but all sorts of issues: grounded and grounding conductors not separated, bonding jumpers on egc bar, double-lugged grounded conductors, double-lugged service lugs, etc. Kenny ![IMG.jpg](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/original/3X/2/5/25637aa9c671ab618584facc14ff665f2e58abff.jpeg) ![IMG.jpg](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/original/3X/7/2/7208f0b9430a0282a625f49f396bb85f4a21852e.jpeg) ![IMG.jpg](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/original/3X/f/f/ffeb9688cc8ac10c4d64de10263bea6a9907bb67.jpeg) ![IMG_0506.jpg](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/original/3X/8/b/8b26b654774dd44f8f35ef8cee9b0517f44b887c.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![rmeier2](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/rmeier2/32/59909_2.png) [@rmeier2](https://forum.nachi.org/u/rmeier2)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2012, 8:22pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/egc-bypassed-the-service-panel/66881/2 "2012-02-17T20:22:53Z")
This mess needs to be started over since they’re are multiple issues. ---
**Author:** ![krigler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/838e76/32.png) [@krigler](https://forum.nachi.org/u/krigler)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2012, 8:52pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/egc-bypassed-the-service-panel/66881/3 "2012-02-17T20:52:53Z")
I agree and referred it to an electrician. I was just double-checking for future reference if it was ever an acceptable practice to bypass the service panel with the EGC like they did. ---
**Author:** ![ccurrins](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/ccurrins/32/225758_2.png) [@ccurrins](https://forum.nachi.org/u/ccurrins)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2012, 9:36pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/egc-bypassed-the-service-panel/66881/4 "2012-02-17T21:36:31Z")
> [@Robert\_Meier](#): > > This mess needs to be started over since they’re are multiple issues. A mess I agree. Would you mind highlighting the more important defects you see from the eyes of an experienced electrician? ---
**Author:** ![jpope](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/jpope/32/59425_2.png) [@jpope](https://forum.nachi.org/u/jpope)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2012, 12:42am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/egc-bypassed-the-service-panel/66881/5 "2012-02-18T00:42:12Z")
Lack of bond at the service equipment Neutral terminal bonded to enclosure at left-side sub panel EGC’s attached to neutral terminal at right-side sub panel Nuetral terminal bonded to enclosure at right-side sub panel Nuetrals and grounds under individual terminals at right-side sub panel Multiple conductors under main lugs of right-side sub panel Over-fused feeders to left-side sub panel That’s what I can see on my iPhone… ---
**Author:** ![rmeier2](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/rmeier2/32/59909_2.png) [@rmeier2](https://forum.nachi.org/u/rmeier2)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2012, 5:09pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/egc-bypassed-the-service-panel/66881/6 "2012-02-18T17:09:36Z")
The feeder from the service disconnect is required to be a 4 wire feeder. Also the NM cable entered into the panel are not code compliant either. Can’t see where the GEC terminates.