Existing Fuse Box

Originally Posted By: jtedesco
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Looks like this fuse box is still serviceable and in very good shape, why would anyone say it is not safe?


I would rather have this type of equipment protecting my home instead of circuit breakers that may not work when needed!

Very little maintenance needed here.

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Originally Posted By: John Bowman
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Convince me Joe. I’m leaning towards Breakers because of the new AFCI’s.


Originally Posted By: jtedesco
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John:


These types of fuses will open just a quickly as an AFCI, and we may even see an AFCI type fuse for older panels like this one.

Why should I have to remove my entire panel to be able to put in the CB's?

Maybe sometime soon though, the receptacle type breaker AFCI will become available?


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Originally Posted By: kmcmahon
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Who says it’s unsafe? Old maybe, but not unsafe…unless the wires are deteriorating…



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Originally Posted By: bhendry
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How about people doing the following:


Installing the fuse WAY too tight, deforming socket etc.
Installing the fuse WAY too loose (hot spot)
Installing the WRONG fuse
Installing tin foil, coins, pipe, etc.
Installing fingers where they should not be (accidentally I presume)

Then there is:

No spare fuses - angry thoughts - wishing for circuit breakers
Insurance company doesn't like it
It's OLD - who knows what the OLD materials are doing.
Assuming the fuse panel is OLD, then what other OLD things have problems in the house?
Fuse replacing person doesn't necessarily know what a socket problem looks like
Seller "This house is brand new with a new fuse panel", Buyer "New Fuses?!?!?"
There's more. You can create a similar list for circuit breakers (probably not as long though).

Regards,

Bill

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Originally Posted By: jtedesco
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Bill


This discussion is related to "existing installations" and the fuse box above was installed over 40 years ago, and is still serviceable.

When the occupants are not abusing the electrical system the fuses will last for many years.

The list you put together is true in many ways when the occupants are not able to read or understand the warnings on the equipment, and products, so they do what they were taught to do -- defeat safety!

Your recommendation would be to remove the equipment, even if there were no signs of abuse, etc.?


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Originally Posted By: bhendry
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Hi Joe,


With the information provided, I would say something like this:

"Obsolete electrical equipment (fuse panel) observed. Many insurance companies have issues with fuse panels. Installation reported to be over 40 years old. Suggest qualified licensed electrician evaluate system throughout. Consider upgrading to modern safety standards."

Regards,

Bill

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Originally Posted By: jpope
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This puts the buyer on notice that (among other things) replacement parts may not be readily available and that future upgrades may be inevitable.


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Originally Posted By: jtedesco
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Bill:


I like this! Looks like the safest way to complete the recommendation.

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Originally Posted By: jtedesco
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Quote:
"The electrical system appears to be outdated by today's standards."


I agree, this too is easier to list and move on to the next item.

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Originally Posted By: Blaine Wiley
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JP, you stole my line.


I write "The electric service panel appeared to be serviceable, but outdated by todays standards. Parts and equipment may be difficult and/or expensive to obtain."


Originally Posted By: Mike Parks
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I am surpriced that my other electrical buddies have not said that fuses are better than breakers.


What are "today's standards"?

Mike P.