# Flir one and home depot **URL:** \ **Category:** Thermal Imaging, Infrared Cameras & Energy Audits\ **Created:** [March 12, 2016, 10:53pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/flir-one-and-home-depot/104797 "2016-03-12T22:53:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![belliott](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/belliott/32/57038_2.png) [@belliott](https://forum.nachi.org/u/belliott)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2016, 2:21am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/flir-one-and-home-depot/104797/81 "2016-03-27T02:21:01Z")
> [@jbowman](#): > > Good for you Bob. If it fits your business plan and your content with it…by all means go for it. > > Is it cheaper to have your Flir 1 sent in for calibration or to just buy a new one? Disposable, portable, fast, no worries and fun. Did I mention cheap? I went 10 years doing every type property and never a complaint without any Ir because I never depend on tools much. Having a new ir toy just makes it more fun and seems to help find a few issues. God forbid I not pay money to the third party vendor to tell me a home with no temperature differential does not show issues. Gee. Most of it is basic common sense if you are not dependant on making it complicated and back up findings visually or with a moisture meter. ---
**Author:** ![dandersen](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/dandersen/32/59398_2.png) [@dandersen](https://forum.nachi.org/u/dandersen)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2016, 3:24am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/flir-one-and-home-depot/104797/82 "2016-03-27T03:24:23Z")
So tell us old wise one, what happens to the temperature of a wet wall when you add heat to it? ---
**Author:** ![belliott](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/belliott/32/57038_2.png) [@belliott](https://forum.nachi.org/u/belliott)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2016, 5:00am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/flir-one-and-home-depot/104797/83 "2016-03-27T05:00:07Z")
> [@dandersen](#): > > So tell us old wise one, what happens to the temperature of a wet wall when you add heat to it? Lol… I am not the one pretending. When you add heat temp goes up… Duh. Gee maybe it gets colder? David I did a foreclosure yesterday and rapidly own my on realized there was no differential because of the fact everything inside was the same temp. Today I did a empty house that had utilities and immediately stoked up the thermometer to get a contrast. It is not rocket science. ---
**Author:** ![cevans](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/cevans/32/244194_2.png) [@cevans](https://forum.nachi.org/u/cevans)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2016, 5:10am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/flir-one-and-home-depot/104797/84 "2016-03-27T05:10:12Z")
Windbag has stumbled his way to the first stage of the competency scale and found the stage where his is comfortable. Some find comfort in being absolutely clueless of their ignorance. Training and education threaten that comfort, when one begins to realize just how much they don’t understand. Some people find that frightening. It’s much easier to be totally confident in your expertise when you’re also totally clueless. He’s demonstrated that twice now in this thread with his thermographic analysis. > **[Four stages of competence](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_stages_of_competence)** > > In psychology, the four stages of competence, or the "conscious competence" learning model, relates to the psychological states involved in the process of progressing from incompetence to competence in a skill. > Management trainer Martin M. Broadwell described the model as "the four levels of teaching" in February 1969. Paul R. Curtiss and Phillip W. Warren mentioned the model in their 1973 book The Dynamics of Life Skills Coaching. The model was used at Gordon Training International by its emplo... I think he’s peaked already. Must be something about that last name, there seems to be a trend. [![](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5d/Competence_Hierarchy_adapted_from_Noel_Burch_by_Igor_Kokcharov.jpg) ](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5d/Competence_Hierarchy_adapted_from_Noel_Burch_by_Igor_Kokcharov.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![belliott](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/belliott/32/57038_2.png) [@belliott](https://forum.nachi.org/u/belliott)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2016, 5:29am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/flir-one-and-home-depot/104797/85 "2016-03-27T05:29:32Z")
Lol knew my other stalker would make a Cameo. Now tell me Chucky where I went wrong in life besides thinking you are a windbag… How about something called facts . Something you rubes are not familiar with. ---
**Author:** ![cevans](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/cevans/32/244194_2.png) [@cevans](https://forum.nachi.org/u/cevans)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2016, 7:14am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/flir-one-and-home-depot/104797/86 "2016-03-27T07:14:56Z")
> [@belliott](#): > > Lol knew my other stalker would make a Cameo. > Now tell me Chucky where I went wrong in life besides thinking you are a windbag… > How about something called facts . Something you rubes are not familiar with. You wouldn’t recognize a fact if you tripped over it. Aren’t you supposed to be on Faceplant instead of spreading your incompetent crap around here? ---
**Author:** ![belliott](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/belliott/32/57038_2.png) [@belliott](https://forum.nachi.org/u/belliott)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2016, 7:45am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/flir-one-and-home-depot/104797/87 "2016-03-27T07:45:51Z")
> [@cevans](#): > > You wouldn’t recognize a fact if you tripped over it. > > Aren’t you supposed to be on Faceplant instead of spreading your incompetent crap around here? Chuck you are showing how Rube you are . What in your entire contribution to this giant long thread have you contributed till now ? Oh that’s right ----0----- So your best thought in a empty brain is to simply attack me as a guy who just happens to see through you.Hey we all do our best and yours is to cover lack of reasoning skills by switching a interesting subject into a us vs them debate. Sorry if I am being hard on you but am a honest person. ---
**Author:** ![ldapkus](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/ldapkus/32/58272_2.png) [@ldapkus](https://forum.nachi.org/u/ldapkus)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2016, 11:15am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/flir-one-and-home-depot/104797/88 "2016-03-27T11:15:59Z")
> [@belliott](#): > > Linas you afraid to show up and support the local NACHI chapter or you are too wrapped up with ASHI now ? > > We need your guidelines to being a Master Inspector. > > Can I cry on your shoulder ? I don’t attend any functions after my last inspection of the day unless it’s a family gathering or an ASHI function. Why would I want to pay $25 to get 3 pieces of frozen pizza, spend 1 1/2 hours on the road to listen to your nonsensical babbling when I can get it here for free? Here are the Certified Master Inspector “guidelines” you requested: **Every Certified Master Inspector® must:** 1. have completed 1,000 fee-paid inspections and/or hours of education (combined); 2. have been in the inspection business for at least three years; 3. agree to abide by the inspection industry’s toughest [Code of Ethics](http://certifiedmasterinspector.org/code-of-ethics/); 4. agree to periodic criminal background checks; and 5. submit the application and the one-time fee (no annual dues, ever). Next question. ---
**Author:** ![ldapkus](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/ldapkus/32/58272_2.png) [@ldapkus](https://forum.nachi.org/u/ldapkus)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2016, 11:25am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/flir-one-and-home-depot/104797/89 "2016-03-27T11:25:03Z")
> [@belliott](#): > > _ **The other sets were warmer and this set showed as colder leading to discovery.** _ > What matters is I found the issue. > > But wait that is impossible and no matter how many times I hit patronizing know it all’s on the head they will refuse the evidence because they were brainwas…taught different. > > Nobody dare disagree with the Gods of IR…lol…get a life dudes. > People are emailing me the Flir is helping them find issues and that is enough to make $250 a low cost tool that works. > > I bet not 100% of the elite use a sure test and figure a 3 light tester is good enough meaning you guys are missing line drops and not trained in Electric enough so should stop using the 3 light tester as it is cheaper and you have not been trained in its use …ha ha. > > I just opened a new website as a Thermal expert using the Flir one by the way …cool eh ? > > Next I am starting a new web page with my new Sure test logo where I will explain there are untrained men going around with 3 light testers that are inferior and without proper voltage drop training …so beware. > > **IR cqmeras are just another tool…not a license to pretend you are better than everyone else .** The other windows were _ **warmer** _??? Why?? You’ll never figure it out on your own. Get some literature or get some free online training before you continue to make a fool of yourself…or don’t, and keep posting your “busted” stuff images so we can all get a good laugh.:p:p:p:p:p:p ---
**Author:** ![belliott](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/belliott/32/57038_2.png) [@belliott](https://forum.nachi.org/u/belliott)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2016, 2:07pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/flir-one-and-home-depot/104797/90 "2016-03-27T14:07:02Z")
> [@ldapkus](#): > > The other windows were _ **warmer** _??? Why?? > You’ll never figure it out on your own. > Get some literature or get some free online training before you continue to make a fool of yourself…or don’t, and keep posting your “busted” stuff images so we can all get a good laugh.:p:p:p:p:p:p Good laugh or education? The first sentence in any one of my posts provides more actual information than your entire volume of lies and insults . It is sad that there are those whom think you have a clue . The fact you even have a few fanboys based on IR and gun posts is disgusting but not surprising as the masses contain simple minds. ---
**Author:** ![cevans](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/cevans/32/244194_2.png) [@cevans](https://forum.nachi.org/u/cevans)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2016, 2:38pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/flir-one-and-home-depot/104797/91 "2016-03-27T14:38:16Z")
> [@belliott](#): > > Chuck you are showing how Rube you are . > What in your entire contribution to this giant long thread have you contributed till now ? Oh that’s right ----0----- > > So your best thought in a empty brain is to simply attack me as a guy who just happens to see through you.Hey we all do our best and yours is to cover lack of reasoning skills by switching a interesting subject into a us vs them debate. > > Sorry if I am being hard on you but am a honest person. I’m hurt! Called a rube by the guy who avoids knowledge because it will influence his judgement - That is a winning argument right there! You go on and be the poster child for unconscious incompetence. Somebody has to do it. I can’t think of a better representative than Windbag. How come the corners of all your windows look wet? Did you probe them? BTW: Have you sought counseling to find out why you have such animus toward gays that you make use of gay references as a slur? ---
**Author:** ![jbowman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/jbowman/32/57038_2.png) [@jbowman](https://forum.nachi.org/u/jbowman)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2016, 2:43pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/flir-one-and-home-depot/104797/92 "2016-03-27T14:43:10Z")
Here Bob. This will save you even more money in your IR surveys. The results are equivalent to the results of a Flir One. ---
**Author:** ![ldapkus](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/ldapkus/32/58272_2.png) [@ldapkus](https://forum.nachi.org/u/ldapkus)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2016, 2:57pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/flir-one-and-home-depot/104797/93 "2016-03-27T14:57:51Z")
> [@kramm](#): > > I think you should pay attention. > > These seals weren’t busted but they did / were failed. > > ![IR (8).jpg](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/original/3X/d/8/d8d80f4026761d64b1ebfdffcda538dda20f137f.jpeg) They’re not “busted”???:p:p:p ---
**Author:** ![ldapkus](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/ldapkus/32/58272_2.png) [@ldapkus](https://forum.nachi.org/u/ldapkus)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2016, 2:59pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/flir-one-and-home-depot/104797/94 "2016-03-27T14:59:48Z")
> [@wmisegades](#): > > _ **Please believe me when I say that I don’t mean the following in a condescending or disrespectful way but I have to say that this has to be one of the stupidest things you’ve ever said.** _ How can training (meaning learning what to look for, how to look for, how to interpret etc…) by any means taint anybody’s findings? This is not a thermography thing or a thermographer vs non thermographer. > Did you start inspecting houses without any training thinking you don’t want to get proper training because it might taint your findings? > This makes absolutely no sense. Training is even more necessary if you are going to use an inferior gadget so you better understand what you are looking at and more importantly to interpret it. I though I was the only one that noticed. ---
**Author:** ![ldapkus](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/ldapkus/32/58272_2.png) [@ldapkus](https://forum.nachi.org/u/ldapkus)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2016, 3:01pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/flir-one-and-home-depot/104797/95 "2016-03-27T15:01:26Z")
> [@belliott](#): > > Lol… \*\*\*I am not the one pretending. \*\*\* > When you add heat temp goes up… Duh. Gee maybe it gets colder? > David I did a foreclosure yesterday and rapidly own my on realized there was no differential because of the fact everything inside was the same temp. Today I did a empty house that had utilities and immediately stoked up the thermometer to get a contrast. It is not rocket science. Not pretending, just guessing. Good work Bob.😉 ---
**Author:** ![dandersen](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/dandersen/32/59398_2.png) [@dandersen](https://forum.nachi.org/u/dandersen)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2016, 6:15pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/flir-one-and-home-depot/104797/96 "2016-03-27T18:15:54Z")
> [@belliott](#): > > Lol… I am not the one pretending. > When you add heat temp goes up… Duh. Gee maybe it gets colder? > David I did a foreclosure yesterday and rapidly own my on realized there was no differential because of the fact everything inside was the same temp. Today I did a empty house that had utilities and immediately stoked up the thermometer to get a contrast. It is not rocket science. No it is not Rocket Science unless your using it on rockets (which BTW I have at the jet propulsion lab at Arnold AFB in Winchester TN). And NO, your guess was wrong! It is the Science of Psychrometrics. If you do not know this science, you do not know what to expect from your Thermal Imaging Toy. And no I am not going to teach this subject here. I have published a paper on this , so just go look it up. “The Great Pretender” ---
**Author:** ![plesieur](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/plesieur/32/59455_2.png) [@plesieur](https://forum.nachi.org/u/plesieur)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2016, 8:00pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/flir-one-and-home-depot/104797/97 "2016-03-27T20:00:36Z")
I haven’t seen the C2 or whatever Flir were talking about but last year I did visit a thermographers site and read that IR can see things in a residential inspection that most inspectors would miss. Non invasive recording of conditions can be a great benefit to an inspector and his client, if you know how to use the camera. The hard part for me was understanding the important elements of thermagraphy goes far beyond looking at colors on a screen and in search of answers I realized it was better for me to actually take my IR manual along for when I didn’t know what I was doing which in fact was more than half the time. On the other hand there is no shame in bringing a library along as opposed to flat out guessing. I am ok with the Home Depot camera but I think home inspectors should at the least meet minimum Resnet standards for IR cameras which was 120X90 resolution on the camera and knowing how to set your camera to get the correct readings. And also to know the difference between qualitative and quantitative. Any issue I have with the Home Depot camera is it waters down the time and money some inspectors spend to get accepted and working as IR service providers. Home owners and business owners deserve reliable and accurate reporting which the Home Depot camera cannot do except in a very general way. ---
**Author:** ![jmckenna1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/jmckenna1/32/719_2.png) [@jmckenna1](https://forum.nachi.org/u/jmckenna1)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2016, 9:29pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/flir-one-and-home-depot/104797/98 "2016-03-27T21:29:08Z")
> [@plesieur](#): > > Resnet standards for IR cameras which was 120X90 resolution The RESNET standard… - thermal sensitivity is specifiedat 100mK or better, - resolution is defined by the minimum array size of 120×120 or better ---
**Author:** ![plesieur](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/plesieur/32/59455_2.png) [@plesieur](https://forum.nachi.org/u/plesieur)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2016, 9:39pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/flir-one-and-home-depot/104797/99 "2016-03-27T21:39:51Z")
I stand corrected.😉 ---
**Author:** ![kramm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/96bed5/32.png) [@kramm](https://forum.nachi.org/u/kramm)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2016, 10:03pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/flir-one-and-home-depot/104797/100 "2016-03-27T22:03:42Z")
> [@plesieur](#): > > I stand corrected.😉 Show us an IR of those wings you were going to barbecue. :mrgreen::mrgreen: [Previous page](https://forum.nachi.org/t/flir-one-and-home-depot/104797.md?page=4) [Next page](https://forum.nachi.org/t/flir-one-and-home-depot/104797.md?page=6)