FPE jumper?

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#1

Originally Posted By: jonofrey
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Is this how FPE compensated for the six levers to cutoff rule? The 60amp breaker appeared to control the lower part of the panel. It looked like a professional rig job to me? Is this typical?


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#2

Originally Posted By: gbeaumont
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Hi John,


what you appear to have there is a classic split bus panel where a breaker in the top bus controls the supply to the bottom bus, so it does meets the 6 switch rule.


Did you happen to notice what appears to be scorching on the conductors to the lower bus as they appear to be discolored to my eyes. Also don't the lower breakers exceed the rating of the control breaker I can't read the lower breakers ??

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Gerry

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#3

Originally Posted By: jonofrey
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Hi Gerry,


Thanks for the reply. That's first split panel FPE that I've seen. I did look for scorching/arching, this being an FPE and all. I looked closely at the area you mention when I was there. I think that's just the results of the solder job of the conductors to the bus.

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#4

Originally Posted By: Dennis Bozek
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icon_eek.gif Doesn’t really matter what the gizmo is…it is a FPE panel…recommend upgrade asap…especially with that 2 pole 60 amp breaker in place. Anyway that is a common trick with FPE. I’ve seen a zillion of them…just trash the panel…have someone put in a nice SQD QO panel in place of the FPE, unless of course they are using the wiring in the house to arc weld with. In that case you might state the FPE panel should stay

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#5

Originally Posted By: jpeck
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As Gerry stated, it is a split bus panel.


As Dennis stated, it doesn't matter, it's and FPE - replace it.

Ever seen an FPE breaker tripped? Of course not. ![icon_smile.gif](upload://b6iczyK1ETUUqRUc4PAkX83GF2O.gif)

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#6

Originally Posted By: arosenbaum
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Just wondering…


FPE = Federal Pacific Electric

Yes??? or No???

#7

Originally Posted By: wcampbell
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yes

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#8

Originally Posted By: Blaine Wiley
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OK Guys,


Admittedly, my head is thick as concrete. In my area we have gazillions of FPE stab lock panels. I have read as much as I can take in the threads dealing with this topic.

Home Inspectors: What verbiage (wording for those who didn't finish school)![icon_lol.gif](upload://zEgbBCXRskkCTwEux7Bi20ZySza.gif) do you use when writing up an FP service panel in your report. Do you always recommend replacement, further eval. by a qualified licensed sparky, check CPSC, or what?

Blaine

#9

Originally Posted By: wcampbell
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I always tell them that FPEs have a past history of not tripping in case of a short and that a Licensed Electrician should be consulted about possible replacement.

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#10

Originally Posted By: jpope
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of how “good” they look;


Zinsco (or FPE) panels are considered problematic by industry professionals. JPI recommends a complete evaluation of the systems' integrity and performance by a qualified, licensed, electricial contractor.

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#11

Originally Posted By: mpatton
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This is the link to a previous thread having the discussion about FPE.


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http://www.nachi.org/bbsystem/viewtopic.php?t=788&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0


Available Web Information
http://www.inspect-ny.com/fpe/fpepanel.htm
http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml83/83008.html

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#12

Originally Posted By: mrose
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Quote:
A standard disclaimer for me, when dealing with Zinsco or FPE panels - regardless of how "good" they look;

Zinsco (or FPE) panels are considered problematic by industry professionals. JPI recommends a complete evaluation of the systems' integrity and performance by a qualified, licensed, electrical contractor.


That is some of the best wording I have ever seen in a disclaimer. Smooth

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#13

Originally Posted By: Blaine Wiley
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Jeff,


That is excellent wording, Mind if I steal it?

Mike,

Good links, I currently provide those to my buyers in my report.

Blaine

#14

Originally Posted By: jpope
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Please. . . help yourself icon_biggrin.gif

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#15

Originally Posted By: JIM WALKER
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Maybe FP = fire perfect

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