# Green Lumber. Please proof this new inspection article. **URL:** \ **Category:** General Inspection Discussion\ **Created:** [September 2, 2009, 12:25am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/green-lumber-please-proof-this-new-inspection-article/41764 "2009-09-02T00:25:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![gromicko](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/gromicko/32/58172_2.png) [@gromicko](https://forum.nachi.org/u/gromicko)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2009, 12:25am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/green-lumber-please-proof-this-new-inspection-article/41764/1 "2009-09-02T00:25:29Z")
[http://www.nachi.org/green-lumber.htm](http://www.nachi.org/green-lumber.htm) ---
**Author:** ![dbolduc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c2a13f/32.png) [@dbolduc](https://forum.nachi.org/u/dbolduc)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2009, 9:51am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/green-lumber-please-proof-this-new-inspection-article/41764/2 "2009-09-02T09:51:14Z")
The bullet list under ‘Problems associated with…’ needs caps to start each item to keep the format the same as above. ---
**Author:** ![mcyr](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/mcyr/32/173319_2.png) [@mcyr](https://forum.nachi.org/u/mcyr)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2009, 11:22am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/green-lumber-please-proof-this-new-inspection-article/41764/3 "2009-09-02T11:22:48Z")
Additional information on the advantages and disadvantages of the two types of drying lumber; **[FONT=TimesNewRomanPS-BoldMT][size=2]Kiln Drying[/size][/FONT]** [FONT=TimesNewRomanPSMT][size=1]Rate of drying can be controlled by varying heat and relative humidity. Controlling drying rates minimizes drying defects in lumber. Lumber can be dried to 8% MC, or less, for use in interior applications. Staining of lumber can be controlled by using heat and air flow to rapidly dry the surface of boards. Drying time is norma lly les s than one month for common northeast species. Lumber must be trucked to and from the kiln. There is an out-of pocket cost associate d with kiln drying. **[FONT=TimesNewRomanPS-BoldMT][size=2][FONT=TimesNewRomanPS-BoldMT][size=2]Air Drying[/size][/size][/FONT]** [FONT=TimesNewRomanPSMT][size=1]Rate of drying is subject to the weather. It is not possible to dry lumber to less than about 15%MC, wit hout further drying in a he ated building. Warm, humid conditions with little air movement can promote some types of stain. Drying can take several months under ideal conditions. Lumber can be dried on-site, in any area which receives good air-flow. Air drying can be a low cost alternative. This last method is what is typically used for framing lumber. It will also normally bear the stamp S-Dry No. 2 Stud grade :)😃 [/size][/FONT][/FONT][/size][/FONT] ---
**Author:** ![gfarnsworth](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/gfarnsworth/32/179646_2.png) [@gfarnsworth](https://forum.nachi.org/u/gfarnsworth)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2009, 1:32pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/green-lumber-please-proof-this-new-inspection-article/41764/4 "2009-09-02T13:32:09Z")
I would try to list other home issue results from using green wood; squeaking floors, trim gaps, etc. ---
**Author:** ![mnahrgang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/mnahrgang/32/2365_2.png) [@mnahrgang](https://forum.nachi.org/u/mnahrgang)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2009, 3:00pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/green-lumber-please-proof-this-new-inspection-article/41764/5 "2009-09-02T15:00:26Z")
> [@gfarnsworth](#): > > I would try to list other home issue results from using green wood; squeaking floors, trim gaps, etc. Wasn’t there a thread recently where someone had the window frame being compressed against their brick veneer as the framing shrunk? That would be a great addition to the article, and the photo was perfect. ---
**Author:** ![mcyr](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/mcyr/32/173319_2.png) [@mcyr](https://forum.nachi.org/u/mcyr)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2009, 3:06pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/green-lumber-please-proof-this-new-inspection-article/41764/6 "2009-09-02T15:06:23Z")
This one Mark? [http://www.nachi.org/forum/f23/has-anyone-ever-seen-42493/:](http://www.nachi.org/forum/f23/has-anyone-ever-seen-42493/:)) ---
**Author:** ![mnahrgang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/mnahrgang/32/2365_2.png) [@mnahrgang](https://forum.nachi.org/u/mnahrgang)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2009, 3:13pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/green-lumber-please-proof-this-new-inspection-article/41764/7 "2009-09-02T15:13:19Z")
> [@mcyr](#): > > This one Mark? > > [Has anyone ever seen this... - Structural Inspections - InterNACHI®️ Forum](http://www.nachi.org/forum/f23/has-anyone-ever-seen-42493/:)) Yep… 😃 ---
**Author:** ![ktarasenko](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/ktarasenko/32/1981_2.png) [@ktarasenko](https://forum.nachi.org/u/ktarasenko)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2009, 7:33pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/green-lumber-please-proof-this-new-inspection-article/41764/8 "2009-09-02T19:33:13Z")
> [@dbolduc](#): > > The bullet list under ‘Problems associated with…’ needs caps to start each item to keep the format the same as above. **:-({|= Crimea River** here, Editor Extraordinaire… I’m afraid Microsoft has done the struggling literate world a great injustice with the MS Word program’s default setting of capping words merely because they appear first in a new line, whether in bulleted or numbered lists. It may _look_ pretty, uniform, official, etc., but the rule for excruciatingly correct punctuation (my wheelhouse) is this: Do not cap the first letter of the first word if it is not the first word of a complete sentence. -X To wit: _I like coffee and I like tea, but I don’t like:_ - _coffee grounds that stain my teeth;_ - \*cinnamon that makes me cough; \* - _strong tea which is bitter; or_ - \*weak coffee, which is pointless. \* Note that the bulleted items cannot stand alone as complete sentences because they are merely sentence FRAGMENTS – they are lacking a subject and verb (not counting prepositional phrases). However, when connected with the primary sentence _(“I like coffee and I like tea, but I don’t like…”_), the phrase completes the sentence. You wouldn’t cap a word in the middle of a sentence (unless it’s a name/proper noun), which is why you don’t cap the word just because it has a bullet in front of it. Note, too, the use of the much-abused semi-colon ;], which is properly used (instead of the comma) after a colon :] to connect a series of related ideas. Now, this would be correct: _The following are examples of problems encountered with roof inspections:_ - _Errant banana peels can create a slipping hazard;_ - _Nesting birds can create a pecking hazard; and_ - _Low-hanging clouds can create a dreaming hazard._ The bulleted items are stand-alone, complete sentences (noun/subject + verb). Either semi-colons or periods are technically acceptable following each bulleted item, though I’d prefer periods (and deleting the “and” after the second bulleted item). The capped words serve as the first words of complete sentences. You must change your default settings so that Word stops automatically capping the first word of each new line. Some people won’t do this because they don’t really care, but here at InterNACHI, we’re all about literacy, as well as accuracy… _ **Cheers,** _ _ **Kate \:D/** _ ---
**Author:** ![rlondon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/87869e/32.png) [@rlondon](https://forum.nachi.org/u/rlondon)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2009, 7:40pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/green-lumber-please-proof-this-new-inspection-article/41764/9 "2009-09-02T19:40:13Z")
Go get him, Kate. At InterNACHI we don’t screw around. > [@gfarnsworth](#): > > I would try to list other home issue results from using green wood; squeaking floors, trim gaps, etc. I added in something about trim, thanks Mark - I’ll take a look at that thread and have a powow with Kenton, we’ll see what comes of it. cheers ---
**Author:** ![gromicko](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/gromicko/32/58172_2.png) [@gromicko](https://forum.nachi.org/u/gromicko)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2009, 8:19pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/green-lumber-please-proof-this-new-inspection-article/41764/10 "2009-09-02T20:19:25Z")
> [@](#): > > **:-({|= Crimea River** here, Editor Extraordinaire… > > I’m afraid Microsoft has done the struggling literate world a great injustice with the MS Word program’s default setting of capping words merely because they appear first in a new line, whether in bulleted or numbered lists. It may _look_ pretty, uniform, official, etc., but the rule for excruciatingly correct punctuation (my wheelhouse) is this: Do not cap the first letter of the first word if it is not the first word of a complete sentence. -X > > To wit: > > _I like coffee and I like tea, but I don’t like:_ > > - _coffee grounds that stain my teeth;_ > - \*cinnamon that makes me cough; \* > - _strong tea which is bitter; or_ > - \*weak coffee, which is pointless. \* > > Note that the bulleted items cannot stand alone as complete sentences because they are merely sentence FRAGMENTS – they are lacking a subject and verb (not counting prepositional phrases). However, when connected with the primary sentence _(“I like coffee and I like tea, but I don’t like…”_), the phrase completes the sentence. You wouldn’t cap a word in the middle of a sentence (unless it’s a name/proper noun), which is why you don’t cap the word just because it has a bullet in front of it. > > Note, too, the use of the much-abused semi-colon ;], which is properly used (instead of the comma) after a colon :] to connect a series of related ideas. > > Now, this would be correct: > > _The following are examples of problems encountered with roof inspections:_ > > - _Errant banana peels can create a slipping hazard;_ > - _Nesting birds can create a pecking hazard; and_ > - _Low-hanging clouds can create a dreaming hazard._ > > The bulleted items are stand-alone, complete sentences (noun/subject + verb). Either semi-colons or periods are technically acceptable following each bulleted item, though I’d prefer periods (and deleting the “and” after the second bulleted item). The capped words serve as the first words of complete sentences. > > You must change your default settings so that Word stops automatically capping the first word of each new line. Some people won’t do this because they don’t really care, but here at InterNACHI, we’re all about literacy, as well as accuracy… > > _ **Cheers,** _ > _ **Kate \:D/** _ I don’t argue with her here at InterNACHI’s offices for now over-obvious reasons. :roll: ---
**Author:** ![mnahrgang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/mnahrgang/32/2365_2.png) [@mnahrgang](https://forum.nachi.org/u/mnahrgang)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2009, 8:35pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/green-lumber-please-proof-this-new-inspection-article/41764/11 "2009-09-02T20:35:47Z")
> [@gromicko](#): > > I don’t argue with her here at InterNACHI’s offices for now over-obvious reasons. :roll: Don’t blame you! She’s a good one to have around!