# Guess what else InterNACHI membership is going to come with for free? **URL:** \ **Category:** Special Deals for InterNACHI Inspectors\ **Created:** [July 12, 2021, 7:39pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/guess-what-else-internachi-membership-is-going-to-come-with-for-free/200571 "2021-07-12T19:39:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![jbushart1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/jbushart1/32/296202_2.png) [@jbushart1](https://forum.nachi.org/u/jbushart1)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2021, 10:46pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/guess-what-else-internachi-membership-is-going-to-come-with-for-free/200571/41 "2021-07-18T22:46:22Z")
> [@gromicko](#): > > Thank you for disclosing that you are a public adjuster who fights insurance companies for a living. You’re welcome - and thank you for disclosing that you are aware that the new and inexperienced home inspector you are recruiting to use this “free” software program, among others, will be performing perhaps his very first home inspection and providing information to American Family Insurance Company from that inspection that can be used by them to possibly deny claims, investigate fraud, and determine risk. After all, this is posted in a thread to recruit new members. But, I will ask _again_ - will that disclosure also be made to the homebuyer who hires such home inspector to provide his report? ---
**Author:** ![gromicko](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/gromicko/32/58172_2.png) [@gromicko](https://forum.nachi.org/u/gromicko)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2021, 11:21pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/guess-what-else-internachi-membership-is-going-to-come-with-for-free/200571/42 "2021-07-18T23:21:11Z")
> [@jbushart1](#): > > used by them to possibly deny claims, investigate fraud, and determine risk. Nothing wrong with any of those 3 things. What’s wrong is a lack of information that might cause an insurance company to: pay a fraudulent claim, not investigate a fraud, and be unable to determine risk. That harms us all. ---
**Author:** ![jburkeson1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/jburkeson1/32/328752_2.png) [@jburkeson1](https://forum.nachi.org/u/jburkeson1)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2021, 11:33pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/guess-what-else-internachi-membership-is-going-to-come-with-for-free/200571/43 "2021-07-18T23:33:10Z")
> [@gromicko](#): > > since that information might be used to increase the clarity about the risk of insuring homes and thus cause the premiums to be raised or lowered accordingly, it seems you are simply opposed to accuracy. Thing is here in Florida I normally get paid to provide accuracy and clarity to insurance underwriters via the (2) Florida Insurance reports, (Four Point and Wind Mitigation), do you expect home inspectors to gather this information and provide it for free? ---
**Author:** ![ccurrins](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/ccurrins/32/225758_2.png) [@ccurrins](https://forum.nachi.org/u/ccurrins)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2021, 12:27am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/guess-what-else-internachi-membership-is-going-to-come-with-for-free/200571/44 "2021-07-19T00:27:25Z")
> [@dhamman](#): > > The new Web-based report writer Is the new “Free” offer from InterNACHI only for the new Web-based Report Writer version of HG? Or is it also for the original desktop and companion version? Inspector’s choice? ---
**Author:** ![gromicko](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/gromicko/32/58172_2.png) [@gromicko](https://forum.nachi.org/u/gromicko)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2021, 12:44am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/guess-what-else-internachi-membership-is-going-to-come-with-for-free/200571/45 "2021-07-19T00:44:47Z")
> [@jburkeson1](#): > > Thing is here in Florida I normally get paid to provide accuracy and clarity to insurance underwriters via the (2) Florida Insurance reports, (Four Point and Wind Mitigation), do you expect home inspectors to gather this information and provide it for free? Of course not. I expect InterNACHI members to pay less for everything in the world. Expenses are a big part of business. For example, if you are running your inspection company on a 25% margin, then from an accounting standpoint, every dollar you save on the expense side is the financial equivalent of going out and earning four dollars. So if I can save InterNACHI members $1,000… I’ve essentially went out and performed $4,000 worth of inspections for their company, for free, and handed them over the $4,000. $4,000 can buy you a car in my neighborhood. I feel like Oprah. ---
**Author:** ![gromicko](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/gromicko/32/58172_2.png) [@gromicko](https://forum.nachi.org/u/gromicko)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2021, 12:51am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/guess-what-else-internachi-membership-is-going-to-come-with-for-free/200571/46 "2021-07-19T00:51:30Z")
> [@jbushart1](#): > > vendors that you promote to your members. It’s what you do, Nick. You call them “benefits” and you’ve built a home inspector association around them. Simply not true. 99%+ of the membership benefits InterNACHI provides to its members are created in-house and provided for free by us to our members. Read [Membership Benefits and Competitive Advantages - InterNACHI®](http://www.nachi.org/benefits). The few things we don’t do in-house, such as E&O insurance and reporting software, we procure discounts from the vendors who do provide them so that our members pay less for them. Oooops… wait… I forgot, we own our own E&O insurance company: [We got your back. - InterNACHI®](http://www.nachi.org/insurance-pr) ---
**Author:** ![srechkin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/srechkin/32/180448_2.png) [@srechkin](https://forum.nachi.org/u/srechkin)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2021, 1:13am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/guess-what-else-internachi-membership-is-going-to-come-with-for-free/200571/47 "2021-07-19T01:13:55Z")
It is illegal to disclose any (other than that is an immediate threat to the current occupant) information discovered during a home inspection by the home inspector in the state of New York without written consent of the client. Anyone doing HI’s in NY and using software such as HomeGuage would have to force every client to sign a PIA that gives consent to pass on/disclose/sell their report to the report software company, especially one that happens to be owned by an insurance company!? That is very shady to say the least! ---
**Author:** ![jjonas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/jjonas/32/301755_2.png) [@jjonas](https://forum.nachi.org/u/jjonas)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2021, 1:19am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/guess-what-else-internachi-membership-is-going-to-come-with-for-free/200571/48 "2021-07-19T01:19:33Z")
> [@srechkin](#): > > It is illegal to disclose any (other than that is an immediate threat to the current occupant) information discovered during a home inspection by the home inspector in the state of New York without written consent of the client. > > Anyone doing HI’s in NY and using software such as HomeGuage would have to force every client to sign a PIA that gives consent to pass on/disclose/sell their report to the report software company, especially one that happens to be owned by an insurance company!? **Seems that is why…** > [@jbushart1](#): > > " **Please modify your customer agreement by January 31, 2018 to include the following** : > > In providing the property inspection and inspection report, information about the client, inspector, real estate professional, and property will be collected and input into HomeGauge inspection software and services, which inspector uses to produce the inspection report. This information may include personally-identifiable information about the client, inspector and real estate professional. This information may subsequently be used by the provider of HomeGauge, as set out in the HomeGauge Privacy Policy found at [HomeGauge Privacy Policy](https://www.HomeGauge.com/privacy.html). Inspectors may choose to use this information to market new or related products and services to clients." ---
**Author:** ![srechkin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/srechkin/32/180448_2.png) [@srechkin](https://forum.nachi.org/u/srechkin)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2021, 1:22am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/guess-what-else-internachi-membership-is-going-to-come-with-for-free/200571/49 "2021-07-19T01:22:37Z")
Yeap! and we ALL know how often the client reads and understands the entire scope of the PIA. ---
**Author:** ![jjonas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/jjonas/32/301755_2.png) [@jjonas](https://forum.nachi.org/u/jjonas)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2021, 1:29am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/guess-what-else-internachi-membership-is-going-to-come-with-for-free/200571/50 "2021-07-19T01:29:03Z")
> [@srechkin](#): > > we ALL know how often the client reads and understands the entire scope of the PIA Doesn’t matter. The Vendor is off the hook once signed! ---
**Author:** ![jbushart1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/jbushart1/32/296202_2.png) [@jbushart1](https://forum.nachi.org/u/jbushart1)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2021, 1:30am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/guess-what-else-internachi-membership-is-going-to-come-with-for-free/200571/51 "2021-07-19T01:30:24Z")
> [@srechkin](#): > > Yeap! and we ALL know how often the client reads and understands the entire scope of the PIA. Even if they read this so-called disclosure, it doesn’t tell them what is actually happening to the data and how it is to be used by American Family Insurance Company to “enforce” their insurance policies. It only provides them with a website address, requiring a second step to get the full disclosure. I’m sure there is an honest and transparent reason for this. I just can’t think of it. Nick should be along shortly with one, though. He’s very, very good at this. 😉 He will, however, continue to evade and tap dance around the only question that I posed to him until the thread is so long that no one will read it through to the end. It’s an old Gromicko message board version of “rope-a-dope”. ---
**Author:** ![srechkin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/srechkin/32/180448_2.png) [@srechkin](https://forum.nachi.org/u/srechkin)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2021, 1:31am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/guess-what-else-internachi-membership-is-going-to-come-with-for-free/200571/52 "2021-07-19T01:31:20Z")
> [@jjonas](#): > > Doesn’t matter. The Vendor is off the hook once signed! Point being… the client is getting screwed. I careless about the vendor. I don’t work for them! ---
**Author:** ![mlarson](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/mlarson/32/89225_2.png) [@mlarson](https://forum.nachi.org/u/mlarson)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2021, 1:34am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/guess-what-else-internachi-membership-is-going-to-come-with-for-free/200571/53 "2021-07-19T01:34:33Z")
Funny word that term “free”. ---
**Author:** ![jjonas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/jjonas/32/301755_2.png) [@jjonas](https://forum.nachi.org/u/jjonas)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2021, 1:46am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/guess-what-else-internachi-membership-is-going-to-come-with-for-free/200571/54 "2021-07-19T01:46:21Z")
> [@srechkin](#): > > Point being… the client is getting screwed. What’s that… Did someone mention Thornberry?? 🤐 ---
**Author:** ![ruecker](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/ruecker/32/357170_2.png) [@ruecker](https://forum.nachi.org/u/ruecker)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2021, 2:02am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/guess-what-else-internachi-membership-is-going-to-come-with-for-free/200571/55 "2021-07-19T02:02:28Z")
So Am. Fam. wants our client’s data so they can have an advantage in offering their insurance products. For this they are willing to give us free software. The cheapest package I can find on the HG website is $69 per month. I will assume this is what will be offered for free. If you do 20 inspections per a month, this will save you $3.45 per inspection. So Am. Fam. is offering us $3.45 per inspection to relay our client’s data to them. This seems a little light. HomeAdvisor charges a lot more than that to pass their client’s data on to us. I have a good solution. Before the client can open the report, they must check a box agreeing to their info being shared with Am. Fam. If they agree, they get the solicitation. If they sign up with Am. Fam., the inspector gets $100. ---
**Author:** ![gromicko](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/gromicko/32/58172_2.png) [@gromicko](https://forum.nachi.org/u/gromicko)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2021, 2:03am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/guess-what-else-internachi-membership-is-going-to-come-with-for-free/200571/56 "2021-07-19T02:03:42Z")
> [@jbushart1](#): > > Nick should be along shortly with one, though. He’s very, very good at this. 😉 > > He will, however, continue to evade and tap dance around the only question that I posed to him I don’t see any question? What is the question? I’ll answer it. ---
**Author:** ![rthoroman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/rthoroman/32/427272_2.png) [@rthoroman](https://forum.nachi.org/u/rthoroman)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2021, 2:03am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/guess-what-else-internachi-membership-is-going-to-come-with-for-free/200571/57 "2021-07-19T02:03:58Z")
Not sure how I feel about this new partnership or affiliation? I’ve used HG for 16 years now. Back when HG sold and merged with AmFam I think what 3 or 4 years ago? There was a lot of confusion. I basically did not like the situation where my client was being peddled 3rd party services on the down-low so I stopped using the report upload feature. I think there is an option for older HG users to either opt in or out of the program. Its called [HomeGauge Extra Care](https://www.homegauge.com/extracare/index.html) I think new users of HG have to automatically use this program if the use the report upload feature in order for clients to retrieve their reports? I simply send my clients their reports PDF format to avoid anyone else getting their hands on information. I do use the report upload feature if we have a large project and we are merging 1 inspectors work to another. But I do not consent to any report data sharing and do not use that portion of HG’s system I really do not care what InterNACHI does. But there has to be a catch here? What’s in it for InterNACHI? Why did InterNACHI choose HG? Many Inspectors try to remain unbiased. I’m interested in seeing how all this develops. ---
**Author:** ![ccurrins](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/ccurrins/32/225758_2.png) [@ccurrins](https://forum.nachi.org/u/ccurrins)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2021, 2:16am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/guess-what-else-internachi-membership-is-going-to-come-with-for-free/200571/58 "2021-07-19T02:16:16Z")
Correct, they changed the opt-in option. Now you’re automatically in. That’s not right. We’ve been through this before with other vendors. I’ve never used their service and never will. This smells like NT. > New HG Inspectors who joined after March 9, 2020 are automatically Extra Care Inspectors, but if you joined before that date, you can opt-in right now. If you’d like to opt-out, please email [extracare@homegauge.com](mailto:extracare@homegauge.com). ---
**Author:** ![gromicko](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/gromicko/32/58172_2.png) [@gromicko](https://forum.nachi.org/u/gromicko)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2021, 3:58am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/guess-what-else-internachi-membership-is-going-to-come-with-for-free/200571/59 "2021-07-19T03:58:06Z")
> [@ruecker](#): > > So Am. Fam. wants our client’s data so they can have an advantage in offering their insurance products. For this they are willing to give us free software. The cheapest package I can find on the HG website is $69 per month. I will assume this is what will be offered for free. If you do 20 inspections per a month, this will save you $3.45 per inspection. So Am. Fam. is offering us $3.45 per inspection to relay our client’s data to them. This seems a little light. HomeAdvisor charges a lot more than that to pass their client’s data on to us. I have a good solution. Before the client can open the report, they must check a box agreeing to their info being shared with Am. Fam. If they agree, they get the solicitation. If they sign up with Am. Fam., the inspector gets $100. I gotta get this guy working at InterNACHI 😉 ---
**Author:** ![gromicko](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/gromicko/32/58172_2.png) [@gromicko](https://forum.nachi.org/u/gromicko)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2021, 3:59am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/guess-what-else-internachi-membership-is-going-to-come-with-for-free/200571/60 "2021-07-19T03:59:37Z")
> [@rthoroman](#): > > I really do not care what InterNACHI does. But there has to be a catch here? What’s in it for InterNACHI? See title of this thread. [Previous page](https://forum.nachi.org/t/guess-what-else-internachi-membership-is-going-to-come-with-for-free/200571.md?page=2) [Next page](https://forum.nachi.org/t/guess-what-else-internachi-membership-is-going-to-come-with-for-free/200571.md?page=4)