# Hip? **URL:** \ **Category:** Florida and SUNachi Inspectors\ **Created:** [April 29, 2012, 4:10pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/hip/68783 "2012-04-29T16:10:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![amonagan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/amonagan/32/242894_2.png) [@amonagan](https://forum.nachi.org/u/amonagan)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2012, 4:10pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/hip/68783/1 "2012-04-29T16:10:15Z")
How are you guys rating the roof sections of hip roofs which have open space below them (see pics) - hip or non-hip? Thanks ![203.jpg](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/original/3X/8/2/8210f3ea9fdf456c9218ebaacd8efe6426025ad1.jpeg) ![121.jpg](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/original/3X/d/f/dfe24fe5903e7679498ba9c9b6737c8b99bfb1d9.jpeg) ![081.jpg](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/original/3X/4/b/4b4ec0d0fd92a0588e4357b9a8069fcc127bbb20.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![mmeeker](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/mmeeker/32/59432_2.png) [@mmeeker](https://forum.nachi.org/u/mmeeker)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2012, 4:12pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/hip/68783/2 "2012-04-29T16:12:20Z")
Looks like it to me. ---
**Author:** ![evandeven](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/evandeven/32/373798_2.png) [@evandeven](https://forum.nachi.org/u/evandeven)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2012, 4:24pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/hip/68783/3 "2012-04-29T16:24:03Z")
> [@amonagan](#): > > How are you guys rating the roof sections of hip roofs which have open space below them (see pics) - hip or non-hip? Thanks Picture 1, yes, picture 2, maybe, picture 3 yes. Just from the pictures shown. ---
**Author:** ![amonagan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/amonagan/32/242894_2.png) [@amonagan](https://forum.nachi.org/u/amonagan)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2012, 4:31pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/hip/68783/4 "2012-04-29T16:31:02Z")
I’m not really sure what you’re saying… I’m trying to find out how folks are counting this type of feature (not whether the whole home is hip or non-hip)… Meaning - when counting linear feet of non-hip features, do you guys count this as a non-hip feature. I do appreciate the help and hope I’m clear. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![jshishilla](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/jshishilla/32/1188_2.png) [@jshishilla](https://forum.nachi.org/u/jshishilla)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2012, 4:34pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/hip/68783/5 "2012-04-29T16:34:07Z")
There is a non-hip feature in pic 2 ---
**Author:** ![mtyson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3ab097/32.png) [@mtyson](https://forum.nachi.org/u/mtyson)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2012, 4:35pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/hip/68783/6 "2012-04-29T16:35:09Z")
Picture # 2 has a short rake that must be calculated as a % of other shapes, but other than that all other pictures are hip regardless of cantilever. ---
**Author:** ![evandeven](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/evandeven/32/373798_2.png) [@evandeven](https://forum.nachi.org/u/evandeven)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2012, 4:36pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/hip/68783/7 "2012-04-29T16:36:25Z")
> [@jshishilla](#): > > There is a non-hip feature in pic 2 That is what I thought. > [@](#): > > Meaning - when counting linear feet of non-hip features, do you guys count this as a non-hip feature. One and three are hip roofs with no other non-hip features visible. ---
**Author:** ![amonagan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/amonagan/32/242894_2.png) [@amonagan](https://forum.nachi.org/u/amonagan)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2012, 4:37pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/hip/68783/8 "2012-04-29T16:37:42Z")
Ok, It would seem to me that these would provide areas of weakness due to increased uplift forces - but - can understand that this doesn’t mean that they’re not hip. Thanks so much 😉 ---
**Author:** ![btoye](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/btoye/32/58400_2.png) [@btoye](https://forum.nachi.org/u/btoye)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2012, 5:44pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/hip/68783/9 "2012-04-29T17:44:28Z")
> [@jshishilla](#): > > There is a non-hip feature in pic 2 John, please explain to me what is non-hip in pic 2. If you are referring to the slope up against the wall, that is not counted in my book. Please show me in your book. That roof is 100% hip. ---
**Author:** ![jmurray4](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/jmurray4/32/2301_2.png) [@jmurray4](https://forum.nachi.org/u/jmurray4)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2012, 6:05pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/hip/68783/10 "2012-04-29T18:05:42Z")
> [@btoye](#): > > John, please explain to me what is non-hip in pic 2. If you are referring to the slope up against the wall, that is not counted in my book. Please show me in your book. That roof is 100% hip. I’m not speaking for John, he can do that well enough. However, Picture #2 has a small gable/non hip feature/rake at the left side of the photo. Regardless of its size, it’s still a non hip feature and must be included in the calculation. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![jshishilla](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/jshishilla/32/1188_2.png) [@jshishilla](https://forum.nachi.org/u/jshishilla)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2012, 6:33pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/hip/68783/11 "2012-04-29T18:33:18Z")
Here is the non-hip portion ![121.jpg](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/original/3X/4/3/43e5fdcf491d434c731909d019d996f4f3503259.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![btoye](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/btoye/32/58400_2.png) [@btoye](https://forum.nachi.org/u/btoye)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2012, 6:42pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/hip/68783/12 "2012-04-29T18:42:54Z")
By bad, didn’t see that…looked like a horizontal fascia line going the other way. Thanks