# Holy Crap. Comments welcome. Pull no punches

**URL:** <https://forum.nachi.org/t/holy-crap-comments-welcome-pull-no-punches/199353>\
**Category:** Misc. Discussion\
**Created:** [June 14, 2021, 8:48am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/holy-crap-comments-welcome-pull-no-punches/199353 "2021-06-14T08:48:27Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 16\
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**Author:** ![cprice4](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/cprice4/32/197039_2.png) [@cprice4](https://forum.nachi.org/u/cprice4)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2021, 8:48am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/holy-crap-comments-welcome-pull-no-punches/199353/1 "2021-06-14T08:48:27Z")

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![2021-06-12 11.08.01](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/original/3X/6/0/606c5d6a328e98e0090ef4006b408425830fac3c.jpeg)  
 ![2021-06-12 11.09.58](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/original/3X/4/5/4573d4718d400e1bbd164e6f19b8e6b8c082bc92.jpeg)  
 ![2021-06-12 11.22.48](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/original/3X/4/d/4df9f686340646af369271a25d0d1bdd25baa6df.jpeg)  
 ![2021-06-12 11.09.06](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/original/3X/f/0/f0c9b9547b33baefa889d2fe30ee930327e1a522.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![rkenney](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/rkenney/32/405447_2.png) [@rkenney](https://forum.nachi.org/u/rkenney)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2021, 11:06am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/holy-crap-comments-welcome-pull-no-punches/199353/2 "2021-06-14T11:06:39Z")

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I’m with you, Holy Crap!

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**Author:** ![kleonard](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/kleonard/32/170953_2.png) [@kleonard](https://forum.nachi.org/u/kleonard)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2021, 11:36am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/holy-crap-comments-welcome-pull-no-punches/199353/3 "2021-06-14T11:36:55Z")

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An FPE panel was installed in a cabinet resulting in inadequate working clearances.

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**Author:** ![rkenney](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/rkenney/32/405447_2.png) [@rkenney](https://forum.nachi.org/u/rkenney)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2021, 11:44am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/holy-crap-comments-welcome-pull-no-punches/199353/4 "2021-06-14T11:44:01Z")

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Looks more like the cabinet was installed over, behind, around the FPE panel. I’m thinkin it took more work to install that cabinet then it would have taken to replace/move the panel!

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**Author:** ![lkage](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/lkage/32/347658_2.png) [@lkage](https://forum.nachi.org/u/lkage)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2021, 11:48am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/holy-crap-comments-welcome-pull-no-punches/199353/5 "2021-06-14T11:48:02Z")

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Welcome to our forum, Caleb!…Enjoy, the water is warm, most of the time! 😄

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**Author:** ![mcyr](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/mcyr/32/173319_2.png) [@mcyr](https://forum.nachi.org/u/mcyr)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2021, 12:14pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/holy-crap-comments-welcome-pull-no-punches/199353/6 "2021-06-14T12:14:39Z")

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From what I see, the cabinet came first. That is crazy.

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**Author:** ![mgoldenberg](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/mgoldenberg/32/89265_2.png) [@mgoldenberg](https://forum.nachi.org/u/mgoldenberg)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2021, 12:32pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/holy-crap-comments-welcome-pull-no-punches/199353/7 "2021-06-14T12:32:38Z")

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Isn’t it OK as long as that’s in the bathroom?

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**Author:** ![rkenney](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/rkenney/32/405447_2.png) [@rkenney](https://forum.nachi.org/u/rkenney)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2021, 12:43pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/holy-crap-comments-welcome-pull-no-punches/199353/8 "2021-06-14T12:43:30Z")

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Only if you stuff the shelves with toilet paper and flammable cosmetics, nail polish remover and the such.

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**Author:** ![wcrackel](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/wcrackel/32/223894_2.png) [@wcrackel](https://forum.nachi.org/u/wcrackel)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2021, 1:24pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/holy-crap-comments-welcome-pull-no-punches/199353/9 "2021-06-14T13:24:04Z")

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I’d let them know that the FPE panels with original breakers are known to fail during fault conditions causing serious risk for house fires (especially in a cabinet like that), and or personal injury/death from electrical shock. New production replacement breakers are available to replace the old if they can’t afford to replace the panel altogether at that time.

Sound about right my fellows? Miss anything?

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**Author:** ![kleonard](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/kleonard/32/170953_2.png) [@kleonard](https://forum.nachi.org/u/kleonard)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2021, 4:14pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/holy-crap-comments-welcome-pull-no-punches/199353/10 "2021-06-14T16:14:02Z")

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> [@wcrackel](#):
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> I’d let them know that the FPE panels with original breakers are known to fail during fault conditions causing serious risk for house fires (especially in a cabinet like that), and or personal injury/death from electrical shock. New production replacement breakers are available to replace the old if they can’t afford to replace the panel altogether at that time.
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> Sound about right my fellows? Miss anything?

The panels themselves are also a fire hazard due to poor design, so not only does the panel need replaced, but it needs to be relocated.

On another note that FPE panel box would make a good junction box.

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**Author:** ![kleonard](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/kleonard/32/170953_2.png) [@kleonard](https://forum.nachi.org/u/kleonard)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2021, 4:15pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/holy-crap-comments-welcome-pull-no-punches/199353/11 "2021-06-14T16:15:45Z")

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> [@rkenney](#):
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> Looks more like the cabinet was installed over, behind, around the FPE panel. I’m thinkin it took more work to install that cabinet then it would have taken to replace/move the panel!

I agree.

Most likely someone took great pride in that carpentry job.

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**Author:** ![bcawhern1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/bcawhern1/32/408713_2.png) [@bcawhern1](https://forum.nachi.org/u/bcawhern1)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2021, 10:52pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/holy-crap-comments-welcome-pull-no-punches/199353/12 "2021-06-14T22:52:03Z")

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Did not want to state the obvious, but here is the obvious.

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/original/3X/e/6/e6163f052197b9e6025ea21ea049eff96d39cb20.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![rkehr](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/rkehr/32/190272_2.png) [@rkehr](https://forum.nachi.org/u/rkehr)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2021, 11:26pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/holy-crap-comments-welcome-pull-no-punches/199353/13 "2021-06-14T23:26:58Z")

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Sure. Just make the stab-loc harder to reach.

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**Author:** ![shughes6](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/shughes6/32/174869_2.png) [@shughes6](https://forum.nachi.org/u/shughes6)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2021, 2:55am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/holy-crap-comments-welcome-pull-no-punches/199353/14 "2021-06-15T02:55:17Z")

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High marks for creative use of space…

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**Author:** ![scase](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/scase/32/57038_2.png) [@scase](https://forum.nachi.org/u/scase)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2021, 7:24pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/holy-crap-comments-welcome-pull-no-punches/199353/15 "2021-06-15T19:24:01Z")

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Nice carpentry work. Something to be proud of, lol

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**Author:** ![rbronson](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/rbronson/32/196240_2.png) [@rbronson](https://forum.nachi.org/u/rbronson)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2021, 12:28pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/holy-crap-comments-welcome-pull-no-punches/199353/16 "2021-06-25T12:28:29Z")

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OMG… I just love it… What can I say… It’s why I became a CPI.
