# I Joist strapping

**URL:** <https://forum.nachi.org/t/i-joist-strapping/70950>\
**Category:** Structural Inspections\
**Created:** [August 1, 2012, 5:53pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/i-joist-strapping/70950 "2012-08-01T17:53:52Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 19\
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**Author:** ![sfogarty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/sfogarty/32/58235_2.png) [@sfogarty](https://forum.nachi.org/u/sfogarty)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2012, 5:53pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/i-joist-strapping/70950/1 "2012-08-01T17:53:52Z")

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Looking for some info on strapping or attaching engineered i joists to sill plate. Anyone got manufacturers info?  
Thanks in advance.

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**Author:** ![tpappas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/tpappas/32/1126_2.png) [@tpappas](https://forum.nachi.org/u/tpappas)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2012, 6:50pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/i-joist-strapping/70950/2 "2012-08-01T18:50:20Z")

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This might have some info for you: [http://www.woodbywy.com/literature/TJ-4000.pdf](http://www.woodbywy.com/literature/TJ-4000.pdf)

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**Author:** ![lkage](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/lkage/32/347658_2.png) [@lkage](https://forum.nachi.org/u/lkage)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2012, 7:01pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/i-joist-strapping/70950/3 "2012-08-01T19:01:01Z")

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> [@sfogarty](#):
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> Looking for some info on strapping or attaching engineered i joists to sill plate. Anyone got manufacturers info?  
> Thanks in advance.

More:

> **[Installation Guide for Floor and Roof Framing with TJI 110, 210, 230, 360 and...](https://www.weyerhaeuser.com/woodproducts/document-library/document_library_detail/tj-9001/)**
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> How to install TJI Joists, Timberstrand LSL, Microllam LVL, and Parallam PSL products.

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**Author:** ![sfogarty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/sfogarty/32/58235_2.png) [@sfogarty](https://forum.nachi.org/u/sfogarty)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2012, 7:05pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/i-joist-strapping/70950/4 "2012-08-01T19:05:21Z")

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Same stuff I found. Appearantly no requirements for strapping to sill plates. Makes no sense. You have to strap the sill but then you can nail the joists, and have no band board. Kind of defeats the purpose.

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**Author:** ![tpappas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/tpappas/32/1126_2.png) [@tpappas](https://forum.nachi.org/u/tpappas)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2012, 7:20pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/i-joist-strapping/70950/5 "2012-08-01T19:20:08Z")

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It shows blocking panels between the joists finished with and engineered rim board.

Some more info, you may have seen

[http://www.anthonyforest.com/pdfs/APA/powerjoist/I-Joist-and-Rim-Board-Connections-for-Conventional-Construction.pdf](http://www.anthonyforest.com/pdfs/APA/powerjoist/I-Joist-and-Rim-Board-Connections-for-Conventional-Construction.pdf)

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**Author:** ![lkage](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/lkage/32/347658_2.png) [@lkage](https://forum.nachi.org/u/lkage)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2012, 7:36pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/i-joist-strapping/70950/6 "2012-08-01T19:36:43Z")

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> [@lkage](#):
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> More:  
> [http://www.woodbywy.com/literature/TJ-9001.pdf](http://www.woodbywy.com/literature/TJ-9001.pdf)

> [@sfogarty](#):
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> Same stuff I found. Appearantly no requirements for strapping to sill plates. Makes no sense. You have to strap the sill but then you can nail the joists, and have no band board. Kind of defeats the purpose.

I see rim joists. Look at page 4 for typical rim boards.

Otherwise, you are right, the joists/rim are toe nailed to the sill plate.

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**Author:** ![prussell](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/prussell/32/309158_2.png) [@prussell](https://forum.nachi.org/u/prussell)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2012, 9:59pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/i-joist-strapping/70950/7 "2012-08-01T21:59:13Z")

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Engineered joists should still have an outside rim joist

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**Author:** ![sfogarty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/sfogarty/32/58235_2.png) [@sfogarty](https://forum.nachi.org/u/sfogarty)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2012, 10:06pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/i-joist-strapping/70950/8 "2012-08-01T22:06:43Z")

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> [@prussell](#):
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> Engineered joists should still have an outside rim joist

Dozens of them here inspected, none have them. ](_,)](_,)](\*,)  
That would fix the problem now wouldn’t it.

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**Author:** ![mcyr](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/mcyr/32/173319_2.png) [@mcyr](https://forum.nachi.org/u/mcyr)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2012, 10:14pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/i-joist-strapping/70950/9 "2012-08-01T22:14:06Z")

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Don’t know about everybody else, but I nail them to the sill and nail the rim joist to the I-joist.  
Anything different is f^cked up until proven innocent. :mrgreen:😉

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**Author:** ![lkage](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/lkage/32/347658_2.png) [@lkage](https://forum.nachi.org/u/lkage)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2012, 12:01am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/i-joist-strapping/70950/10 "2012-08-02T00:01:03Z")

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Page 4 (a wall):

 ![wall rim joist.jpg](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/original/3X/3/1/31a9fa502cb7250621bbc4564ae1ac04e396c70e.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![mcyr](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/mcyr/32/173319_2.png) [@mcyr](https://forum.nachi.org/u/mcyr)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2012, 12:05am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/i-joist-strapping/70950/11 "2012-08-02T00:05:10Z")

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That looks normal to me Larry. 🙂

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**Author:** ![lkage](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/lkage/32/347658_2.png) [@lkage](https://forum.nachi.org/u/lkage)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2012, 12:09am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/i-joist-strapping/70950/12 "2012-08-02T00:09:35Z")

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> [@mcyr](#):
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> That looks normal to me Larry. 🙂

Thanks, Marcel. That is what I’ve done and why I posted the PDF of:

 ![r Framer.jpg](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/original/3X/8/3/8394fb2a387ddd1e83c5ab954ef3ab7eb11a461d.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![prussell](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/prussell/32/309158_2.png) [@prussell](https://forum.nachi.org/u/prussell)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2012, 10:55am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/i-joist-strapping/70950/13 "2012-08-02T10:55:52Z")

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Sean, thats just wrong!!! Never seen anyone frame a floor without a rim joist, recently anyway.

Larry, nice illustration, Thanks

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**Author:** ![canderson5](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/canderson5/32/1814_2.png) [@canderson5](https://forum.nachi.org/u/canderson5)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2012, 11:33am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/i-joist-strapping/70950/14 "2012-08-02T11:33:53Z")

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> [@sfogarty](#):
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> Dozens of them here inspected, none have them. ](_,)](_,)](\*,)  
> That would fix the problem now wouldn’t it.

Yep, we’ve got some geniuses here who do that all the time and then they double down on their stupidity and bolt a deck to the OSB sheathing. :roll: ](\*,)

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**Author:** ![sfogarty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/sfogarty/32/58235_2.png) [@sfogarty](https://forum.nachi.org/u/sfogarty)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2012, 11:49am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/i-joist-strapping/70950/15 "2012-08-02T11:49:42Z")

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> [@canderson5](#):
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> Yep, we’ve got some geniuses here who do that all the time and then they double down on their stupidity and bolt a deck to the OSB sheathing. :roll: ](\*,)

Ironic! I wrote that one up yesterday. 😃 Have fun fixing this one.

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**Author:** ![tpappas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/tpappas/32/1126_2.png) [@tpappas](https://forum.nachi.org/u/tpappas)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2012, 3:33pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/i-joist-strapping/70950/16 "2012-08-02T15:33:42Z")

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Thought of you this morning Sean 😛

 ![DSCF6549.jpg](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/original/3X/b/a/bad9ec0fe7d9db7072f600e616e5eb8d525ad9d5.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![canderson5](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/canderson5/32/1814_2.png) [@canderson5](https://forum.nachi.org/u/canderson5)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2012, 5:03pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/i-joist-strapping/70950/17 "2012-08-02T17:03:45Z")

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Is that a central girder?

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**Author:** ![sfogarty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/sfogarty/32/58235_2.png) [@sfogarty](https://forum.nachi.org/u/sfogarty)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2012, 4:07am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/i-joist-strapping/70950/18 "2012-08-03T04:07:22Z")

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> [@tpappas](#):
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> Thought of you this morning Sean 😛

Yes its really that simple. 😃

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**Author:** ![ryoung7](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/ryoung7/32/188798_2.png) [@ryoung7](https://forum.nachi.org/u/ryoung7)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2012, 6:13pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/i-joist-strapping/70950/19 "2012-08-05T18:13:09Z")

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Marcel Cry has what you need. I forget the thread.
