I need business legal help....

Let me try to make this story as brief as I can because if you want more info from me for better advice I would appreciate a phone call or good email contact.
I just started my home inspection business last june and in the fall I was contacted by a company called Four Seasons Consulting who are grant writers. I had previously began filling out a grant application online thru a link that I found on my state’s web site. I have already paid a $3500 retainer fee. I have received a 112 page Business Analysis from them which is a very detailed analysis of a home inspection company starting and making it mid-michigan. We have had several conversations by phone and email. I did background checks on this company and thought why not. I cannot contact them in anyway now. Phones,email and all other points of contact do not work.
I have already filed a complaint with the FTC and BBB. What should I do now?? D I contact the local police department and report this. Do I get a Lawyer (even though I couldn’t possibly afford one)?? What do I do? Any HELP would be great.


Peak Home Inspections
Bruce Sutherland
(989) 644-2421

Sounds like you’re screwed.

yep, just did a Google search, as they would say in the West of Ireland, “yer fooked”


My advise is simple:
File for bankruptcy and look for a real job, you haven’t got enough smarts to run a business.:wink:

If you are looking for business advice go to your local SBA. (small business administration ).
Many are located on collage campuses or nearby.
SBDC - Small Business Development Center**
SCORE** - Service Corp of Retired Executives
It is all free or very inexpensive and is an excellent source of info and training

Listening and agreeing with sales people only will get you lost revenue.

Send it to me. If I find it of value, I will pay you for what it is worth.

3500 dollars for a manual on how to start a home inspection business?
And this didn’t raise any red flags in your mind? :roll:

I have pity on you,

I would have done it for $1500.:smiley:

Am I bad!

Sorry about the money you lose, Bruce.:frowning:

Four Season Consulting is ripping people off daily. Based out of Las Vegas, NV.

When you pay them $3500 they promise to apply for those grants on your behalf and they also tell you that they have a 100% success rate for qualified applicants. Trouble is, all applicants are qualified as long as they can afford to pay the $3500. They DO NOT have a qualification process beyond seeing if you can afford them or not.

You sign a contract that only promises to deliver some sort of business plan or analysis or something like that within three months. They do NOT have to write one single grant proposal on your behalf in order to fulfill the terms of the contract.

You can find them at http://www.fourseasonconsulting.com/home.html

They all look honest to me. I’m gonna send them a few $k.

How dare you guys commit liable against a genuine business advocate such as 4 seasons.
They have an “A” rating on the BBB site and as we all know BBB can be completely trusted ,right?:slight_smile:

Just send then the $3500 wired and get your big grant money.http://www.bbb.org/southern-nevada/business-reviews/business-consultants/four-season-consulting-in-las-vegas-nv-81186

Go for the $5,000 analysis, better results. The $3,500 that Bruce paid for is just a teaser.


Joking aside, speak with Nick. It sounds like you lost $3500. There is a ton of these type scams out there promising to help find you large grants if you pay them a fee upfront.

Why were you looking for a grant? $3500 would’ve went a long way in inspection equipment and tools.

Hope something good comes of this for you in the end.

If your business is doing well and you are continuing business, I would write it off as a tax loss this year. .

Ah Ray, Bruce is from Michigan. I do not know if you heard but the housing market really sucks there. In a market like that you will need a lot of money to get started, or work another job if one can be found in Michigan. It has to be tough. I bet Missouri is a cake walk compared to Michigan.

Bruce -

Where did you take your 50-90 hour classroom inspection training at?

I don’t know ANY classroom training courses that don’t have some type of coursework on start-ups; business plans; marketing; ownership types; etc. Did you not take notes in class?

Did you not talk to your training provider prior to sending these jokers $3,500?

Bruce…very sorry to hear you got ripped off in this manner. Probably everybody here has endured some screw job at one time or another and many just dont like to admit it. Im sure you checked things out as well as you could and unless you have money to burn probably thought it was a viable deal. we can all usually point and say ‘i wouldnt have done that’ after something sucky happens. Ive been suckered in the past too…just teaches me to be far more cautious in the future. Dont know you but I really hope you can find a way to pull out of this because I hate to see bad stuff happen to people from all the shysters around. Luckily it is my experience that most people are pretty good. Sorry…I wish you the best