I'm voting for Sarah, and that guy she's running with.

I don’t deny that Obama is a US. citizen. Obama was born in the U.S… he IS a U.S. citizen.

Now the constitution says that being a citizen isn’t quite enough.

He has to be a “natural born” citizen.

To be “natural born” you have to:

  1. Have at least one parent who is a U.S. citizen at the time of birth. Obama’s Mom was a U.S. citizen… so far so good.

  2. That parent has to have been a U.S. citizen for 10 years. Obama’s Mom had been a U.S. citizen for 18 years… so far so good.

  3. 5 of those years have to be after the age of 16 at time of birth.

Uh Oh. Obama’s mother had to only give birth for Obama to be a U.S. citizen… but had to be 21 for him to be born a “natural born” citizen. She was only 18.

Had both of his parents been U.S. citizens, Obama would be a natural born citizen.

Had only one of his parents been a U.S. citizen for 10 years, 5 of which after the age of 16, Obama would be a natural born citizen.

Neither of these are true.

Obama was born a U.S. citizen, but not a “natural born” citizen, a higher standard. He can’t be President.

Fake Birth Certificate?

A valid birth certificate showing that he is a citizen won’t help. He isn’t a natural born citizen.

I guess that makes Bidden the Presidential nominee and they need a new VP ASAP…:mrgreen:


Come on John even FOX News would not stoop that low. :wink:

We don’t need to stoop that low. He is a U.S. Citizen by being born in this country.

He isn’t a natural born citizen though, so he can’t be President.

This should help in the mean time…

McCain right??? http://www.snopes.com/politics/mccain/citizen.asp :wink: :wink: :mrgreen:

author Jerome Corsi, whose book attacks Obama, said in a TV interview that the birth certificate the campaign has is “fake.”

We beg to differ. FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship.

Claims that the document lacks a raised seal or a signature are false. We have posted high-resolution photographs of the document as “supporting documents” to this article. Our conclusion: Obama was born in the U.S.A. just as he has always said.


OK… maybe Obama was born in the US, but hey… I enjoy Brian doing research for us…:slight_smile:

Aloha John :smiley:

But you never know…

How can we loose …? The new Sarah Palin action hero doll is here.


Something about Obama is just not right???


Looks like it’s going to be between Clinton and Romney. :mrgreen: Or another year of Bush. :shock:

My wife could do it. She has been a nanny for a few years. That’s enough experience nowadays for VP of the USA right?

Someone had too many beers!

I’ll say it again, Obama IS A U.S. CITIZEN because he was born in the U.S.!!

He just isn’t a “natural born” U.S. Citizen because neither of his parents was a U.S. citizen for more than 10 years with 5 of those years being after the age of 16.

The same reason you’re all confused is the same reason the press is confused. They keep saying over and over, like some members, that he is a U.S. citizen and that he was born in the U.S. Not enough to be sworn in as President.

Being a U.S. citizen isn’t enough. Being born in the U.S. isn’t enough. He has to be a “natural born” citizen.


Put down the bottle and back away slowly. Go to bed and get a good night’s sleep. No matter how many times you say it, type it or print it, it won’t matter. He is eligible in accordance with the information found at this link for extended reading on the subject or there is an excerpt below. As best put by Yul Brynner in “The Ten Commandments”. “So it is written, so shall it be done.”


Natural-born citizen
Who is a natural-born citizen? Who, in other words, is a citizen at birth, such that that person can be a President someday?
The 14th Amendment defines citizenship this way: “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.” But even this does not get specific enough. As usual, the Constitution provides the framework for the law, but it is the law that fills in the gaps.
Currently, Title 8 of the U.S. Code fills in those gaps. Section 1401 defines the following as people who are “citizens of the United States at birth:”

  • Anyone born inside the United States
  • Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person’s status as a citizen of the tribe
  • Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.
  • Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national
  • Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year
  • Any one found in the U.S. under the age of five, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21
  • Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)
    *]A final, historical condition: a person born before 5/24/1934 of an alien father and a U.S. citizen mother who has lived in the U.S.
    Anyone falling into these categories is considered natural-born, and is eligible to run for President or Vice President. These provisions allow the children of military families to be considered natural-born, for example.

Are natural born citizens AKC registered?

By your definition, Nick…as far as parental requirements for natural born citizens…George Washington, John Adams, and Thomas Jefferson (whose parents were citizens of England their entire lives) were not eligible for the presidency, either. When they, themselves, were born there was no such thing as U.S. Citizenship.

Being born on the soil of what is now the United States of America is the definition of the founding fathers as to who can become president.

You have turned “being wrong” into an art form, lately. Good job.:wink:

So this is going to be the October surprise!