# I'm Wrong - CSST **URL:** \ **Category:** Electrical Inspections\ **Created:** [November 19, 2014, 6:28pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/im-wrong-csst/91426 "2014-11-19T18:28:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![vsantos](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/vsantos/32/188006_2.png) [@vsantos](https://forum.nachi.org/u/vsantos)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2014, 6:28pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/im-wrong-csst/91426/1 "2014-11-19T18:28:03Z")
I guess we better all change our verbiage because today we have been put in our places by a professional. Today I was told by a licensed plumber that CSST does not require a bond. In fact it’s not a bond at all but rather a ground and the stainless steel acts as a ground so there’s nothing to be done about it at all. It never ceases to amaze me what contractors come up with. ---
**Author:** ![pabernathy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/pabernathy/32/178230_2.png) [@pabernathy](https://forum.nachi.org/u/pabernathy)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2014, 7:10pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/im-wrong-csst/91426/2 "2014-11-19T19:10:50Z")
UGH…typical plumber playing electrician today…😉 ---
**Author:** ![kramm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/96bed5/32.png) [@kramm](https://forum.nachi.org/u/kramm)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2014, 7:29pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/im-wrong-csst/91426/3 "2014-11-19T19:29:03Z")
> [@vsantos](#): > > I guess we better all change our verbiage because today we have been put in our places by a professional. > > Today I was told by a licensed plumber that CSST does not require a bond. In fact it’s not a bond at all but rather a ground and the stainless steel acts as a ground so there’s nothing to be done about it at all. > > It never ceases to amaze me what contractors come up with. Thanks for the update:mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen: ---
**Author:** ![wwilson3](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/wwilson3/32/58197_2.png) [@wwilson3](https://forum.nachi.org/u/wwilson3)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2014, 1:51am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/im-wrong-csst/91426/4 "2014-11-20T01:51:41Z")
I just email the bulletin , AND tell them to put it in writing ---
**Author:** ![ccurrins](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/ccurrins/32/225758_2.png) [@ccurrins](https://forum.nachi.org/u/ccurrins)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2014, 2:07am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/im-wrong-csst/91426/5 "2014-11-20T02:07:55Z")
> [@pabernathy](#): > > UGH…typical plumber playing electrician today…😉 [On this thread](http://www.nachi.org/forum/f19/bonding-95916/#post1256237), the way I read it, you stated bonding \*\*CSST \*\*is pretty much the plumbers or gas fitters responsibility. So the plumber has to “play” electrician. > [@](#): > > Ironically many do not understand that and damage the CSST by trying to place a clamp on it(incorrectly mind you)…could be a disastrous moment… **Thats the problem and why it brings up a argument point for electrician versus plumbers and gas fitters.** > > \*\*Who’s responsibility is it \*\*to make the connections per the manufacturer. **My position is that it’s the installer of the CSST.** …but are they really qualified to make that connection…do they even understand the principles of the connection they are being asked to make…well you get my drift. > [@](#): > > Not our job…😉… we feel (I speak for the NEC today…lol) that 250.104 is clear and anything else is outside of the scope of the NEC…let the IGCC and IRC handle there part May be why there is so much confusion. No professional trade wants to take responsibility, and the ones that do are often not qualified. ---
**Author:** ![pabernathy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/pabernathy/32/178230_2.png) [@pabernathy](https://forum.nachi.org/u/pabernathy)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2014, 2:12pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/im-wrong-csst/91426/6 "2014-11-20T14:12:54Z")
> [@ccurrins](#): > > [On this thread](http://www.nachi.org/forum/f19/bonding-95916/#post1256237), the way I read it, you stated bonding \*\*CSST \*\*is pretty much the plumbers or gas fitters responsibility. So the plumber has to “play” electrician. > > May be why there is so much confusion. No professional trade wants to take responsibility, and the ones that do are often not qualified. Well I guess they are not really “playing” electrician since the requirement is not the electricians well known “NEC” document, other than 250.104. So I guess the plumber and gas fitter are playing manufacturers installer since they are installing the product, they need to install it in accordance with the manufacturers wishes. They can’t really play electrician since I do not consider anyone without a license to be an Electrician…this is a case where (my opinion) a license makes a difference at least in calling yourself a “Electrician”