There are no simple answers. Period. You are looking for one to support a simple approach when there is none.
The answers to your questions are in fact in my previous replies for those who will take the time to read them.
If my previous considerations and applications were indeed taught in your course, why then do those questions consistently arise from your students?
Level I in my opinion will provide the solid foundation for which to apply specific fields in thermography. It gives you the tools and skills to apply and understand the science to your field. From there, then a more specific direction can be taken whether it be general building applications, electrical, level II, your course, what have you. No one specific class can teach everything, and no one specific class should teach generalities for something as complex as a residential infrared inspection.
The learning and equipment is a costly endeavor and the road is never ending, but if you start out on that road with the cheapest tires you can find you’ll not get very far… That holds true for anything.
Thermography does not create an experienced home inspector, and an experienced home inspector does not create a good thermographer. They are two separate fields that can compliment each other, but should be regarded as such. The same can be said for an electrician, or a veterinarian, or an HVAC specialist. To become competent with both, one must learn competency for both.
Again, my answers to your question are in these replies. They just aren’t as simple as you’d like them to be.
Men like Bill Warner and Charlie don’t need to prove any of the crap you throw around.
They made it in this Industry. They are making a living at it without selling their soul. They are doing it one hard step at a time. You have done nothing to advance yourself (or your students). You and your program is a total scam. You (like many here) sit around and find ways to try to tear down anyone that try’s to help out (with out charging $500)!
If it wasn’t for Nick, you would be a dog pile at the local fire hydrant!
You Sir, do nothing to promote progress in this industry. You promote mediocrity.
You have an ITC class in Building Science under your belt and you think you walk on water!
There are a lot of Bulls in Texas and it seems you make it a past time to collect all that Bull **** and try to pass it off as something it is not!
Any new guy that asks a question, you simply promote your $500 class.
It’s getting beyond “Old”!
Hell, you probably taught Nick that this was an “Air Leak”!
You Damn Obama, I think you should consider “stepping down” as you wish “O-Man” would… You are about the same, when it comes to reality!
Sometimes it is safe to avoid simple answers to a complex
issue. That way you can never be trapped. The problem
is, there must be a starting point in every profession. Not
everyone is willing to state that starting point because of
the heat they will take.
It’s always easy for someone else to come along and
say my camera and training is better than yours and
your “starting point” proves you are stupid.
Brian on a thermal inspection of the panel I am using the inhouse built in appliances that are normally part of the real estate contract the largest amp draw and probably the most used appliance is a cook stove when electrical stoves are available I use them extensively. I did not mean to imply other areas of electrical circuits are not important and I check thos as anyother home inspector would and should
I use every appliance available A/C and or furnace dishwasher,dryer if available. I can take a vacant house and normally get a good amp draw on the panel. I check for extremely unbalanced loads and make recomendations accordingly. On 220 volt circuits I quite commonly find one of the legs extremely higher in temp than the other leg indicating a loose connection. Very easy to find if one knows how to tune the images properly. Simply stated to me 220 volt circuits are used more heavily for the daily functions of the home and are more prone to problems than with a 110 volt outlet that is rarely used
I apologize that I’ve apparently confused you with education, knowledge, and experience on something as complex as residential IR. That wasn’t my intent.
Ok John… in preschool language so you can understand:
Strong House knowledge good ting to have before infrared thingy…
if decide to do infrared thingy, take beginners skool… but make sure it good skool and teach you real fundam… fundament… fundamentals stuff. Dis (a really good skool) usuawy cost more dan $500 an teach you more dan dark spot bad thingy… (sawry but it true…)
My expwanation for dis is dat evryting in more dificult infwared stuff will be found in da house looky over. if no truly understandy principals, den not performing good service an get in twuble. is dark spot bad or is dark spot good? could be bofe. why is dat? if dark spot bad tingy, den what causee dark spot or jus dont care? is lectrisity thingy too hot? waht 2 mefods do u teach to figure dis out? why is dat? is warm toilet bad ting or ok ting? cood be eever one! why is dat? :twisted::mrgreen:
Ok enough funnin’
Seriously John, if you’re truly teaching this stuff in 16 hours then great! But my experience in speaking with several who have spent $500 and taken your course tells me that if falls FAR short preparing them to perform an infrared inspection in a residential application in many aspects. Those aspects are in my previous posts!!!
I don’t knock anyone for trying to save money!
I don’t condone anyone who asks relevant questions! We all continue to learn in both IR and residential inspections. But I learn from those who TRULY and CLEARLY know what they are talking about, not someone with very little experience who took a mediocre slide presentation created by someone else and turned it into a $500 a pop money making scheme. I learn from others who are REALLY willing to listen… and are TRUE and knowledgeable teachers who can learn from their students and peers.
My purpose for all of this is for those interested in infrared in a residential application… GREAT!!! It’s FUN!!! But do it the right way not the cheapest way. The cheapest way will cost you the most in the long run.
Someone once wrote: “Good, Quick, Cheap… pick two”. It’s an axiom that holds true in most walks of life! If the education is good and quick, the learning is probably not cheap. If the education is good and cheap, the learning is not likely to be quick. If the education is quick and cheap, the lessons learned are probably not going to be good… take it for what it’s worth to you.
Enough said.
Carry on with your yawning! :mrgreen:
When I ask an objective question, you continue to avoid the
answer and only attack my class. I keep a close record of
feedback from my students and so far it is running about 99%
positive. The INFRARED CERTIFICATION process does more
for the home inspector than level I, which was never created
for a building inspection to begin with. Even FLIR-ITC created
building courses to answer the complaints they were getting
from the emerging building industry that needed IR training.
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INFRARED CERTIFICATION REQUIREMENTS**
Current requirements (subject to change) for professional designation and logo usage:
You or your inspection company must own, lease or be renting an infrared camera.
You must complete InterNACHI’s online Energy Audit course (free), including all the quizzes within and pass its final exam.
You must take at least 16 hours (two days) of Continuing Education devoted to infrared cameras/thermal imagery or building science in addition to the online courses required for InterNACHI membership and the courses listed above.
You must sign and return the application/affidavit (below) to InterNACHI.
When asking an objective question, you continue to avoid the
answer and only attack my class. I keep a close record of
feedback from my students and so far it is running about 99%
positive. The INFRARED CERTIFICATION process does more
for the home inspector than level I, which was never created
for a building inspection to begin with. Even FLIR-ITC created
building courses to answer the complaints they were getting
from the emerging building industry that needed IR training.
The biggest complaint I get about our qualification process is
that it is too time consuming. (Over 3 times as many hours
as a level I class).
Current requirements (subject to change) for professional designation and logo usage:
You or your inspection company must own, lease or be renting an infrared camera.
You must complete InterNACHI’s online Energy Audit course (free), including all the quizzes within and pass its final exam.
You must take at least 16 hours (two days) of Continuing Education devoted to infrared cameras/thermal imagery or building science in addition to the online courses required for InterNACHI membership and the courses listed above.
You must sign and return the application/affidavit (below) to InterNACHI.
So the only additional requirement a Nachi Certified Home Inspector needs to get his INFRARED CERTIFICATION is to own, lease or be renting an infrared camera. :shock:
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