# Is it just my imagination...

**URL:** <https://forum.nachi.org/t/is-it-just-my-imagination/38079>\
**Category:** Electrical Inspections\
**Created:** [April 20, 2009, 1:19am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/is-it-just-my-imagination/38079 "2009-04-20T01:19:16Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Marc\_D.Shunk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/marc_d.shunk/32/958_2.png) [@Marc\_D.Shunk](https://forum.nachi.org/u/Marc_D.Shunk)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2009, 1:19am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/is-it-just-my-imagination/38079/1 "2009-04-20T01:19:16Z")

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…or is it a royal pain in the keister for a non-member expert to post on this site the last few months?

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**Author:** ![jwilliams4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/278dde/32.png) [@jwilliams4](https://forum.nachi.org/u/jwilliams4)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2009, 2:01am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/is-it-just-my-imagination/38079/2 "2009-04-20T02:01:04Z")

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I wasn’t a member for several weeks and could only get 2 of 4 posts on the board–and it took hours for a post to show up. The other two post are out there in cyberspace scaring little children in their sleep, I suppose.

Non-members have to wait for a moderator to approve their post–or reject it. And it is a royal pain.

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**Author:** ![ccurrins](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/ccurrins/32/225758_2.png) [@ccurrins](https://forum.nachi.org/u/ccurrins)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2009, 3:33am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/is-it-just-my-imagination/38079/3 "2009-04-20T03:33:48Z")

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> [@jwilliams4](#):
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> I wasn’t a member for several weeks and could only get 2 of 4 posts on the board– **and it took hours** for a post to show up. The other two post are out there in cyberspace scaring little children in their sleep, I suppose.
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> Non-members have to wait for a moderator to approve their post–or reject it. And it is a royal pain.

My post over the last week have taken at least 24 hrs. Only trying to answer questions concerning inspections that had not been answered. I’ve noticed many questions from inspectors concerning a problem they need help with are getting few, if any responses, and then 3 or 4 days later long after their reports are already written.

Not the same organization I joined a little over 2 yrs. ago. :shock:

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**Author:** ![ccurrins](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/ccurrins/32/225758_2.png) [@ccurrins](https://forum.nachi.org/u/ccurrins)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2009, 3:36am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/is-it-just-my-imagination/38079/4 "2009-04-20T03:36:23Z")

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Now someone is trying to be funny. 4/19/09 10:35 central time.

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**Author:** ![mkyriacou](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/mkyriacou/32/210032_2.png) [@mkyriacou](https://forum.nachi.org/u/mkyriacou)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2009, 3:52am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/is-it-just-my-imagination/38079/5 "2009-04-20T03:52:52Z")

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Chris,

We are all doing our best to get posts approved. I wish you were a NACHI member brother we could have used you as a moderator! BTW Can you please remind me why you left NACHI?

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**Author:** ![gluck](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/gluck/32/1787_2.png) [@gluck](https://forum.nachi.org/u/gluck)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2009, 1:00pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/is-it-just-my-imagination/38079/6 "2009-04-20T13:00:15Z")

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Moderation to protect the feelings of a few is killing this board.

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**Author:** ![kluce](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/d78d45/32.png) [@kluce](https://forum.nachi.org/u/kluce)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2009, 1:11pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/is-it-just-my-imagination/38079/7 "2009-04-20T13:11:58Z")

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I personally don’t think it was the direction Nick wanted to go but was forced. I think that a lot of these threads were taken too far and wasn’t saying anything but basically the same thing post after post after post by the same people.

I personally like it.🙂 A lot more professional.😃

It doesn’t take much effort and money for that individual to solve the problem of delayed posts and it’s still more than what you get at A$hi and Nahi site.

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**Author:** ![dvalley](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/dvalley/32/206092_2.png) [@dvalley](https://forum.nachi.org/u/dvalley)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2009, 1:12pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/is-it-just-my-imagination/38079/8 "2009-04-20T13:12:01Z")

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> [@gluck](#):
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> Moderation to protect the feelings of a few is killing this board.

Yep. This board has been an un-moderated board for years and it was fine.

Moderation of this board was a bad decision. For those moderators who have stepped up to the plate in order to be the **message board police** , Thanks for nothing.

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**Author:** ![jbraun](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/jbraun/32/536_2.png) [@jbraun](https://forum.nachi.org/u/jbraun)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2009, 1:44pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/is-it-just-my-imagination/38079/9 "2009-04-20T13:44:29Z")

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Agree with David!

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**Author:** ![Jim\_Port](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bc8723/32.png) [@Jim\_Port](https://forum.nachi.org/u/Jim_Port)\
**Post date:** [April 20, 2009, 11:10pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/is-it-just-my-imagination/38079/10 "2009-04-20T23:10:20Z")

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I didn’t see the need for moderation here like another inspection site where name calling is a regular event. I have seen questions posted that have had quite a delay in allowing a non-member responce.

I don’t know if there is a problem with the link to Chris M or what but I have asked about access several times and never received an answer either yay or nay. As a licensed electrician I do not meet the criteria for membership.

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**Author:** ![jbushart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@jbushart](https://forum.nachi.org/u/jbushart)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2009, 2:10am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/is-it-just-my-imagination/38079/11 "2009-04-21T02:10:12Z")

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This message board…unmoderated…was the “cutting edge” of the industry.

No matter if it was good or bad, pretty or ugly…you could be assured that you were going to get it straight, fast and true on the NACHI message board. Tens of thousands flocked here.

Now…the board represents what a handful of others consider to be “appropriate”. There are hours…sometimes days…between posts in certain threads, unless they attack the president or someone’s religious beliefs.

I only stop by for a few minutes at a time, any more, myself. It is really sad…like walking through your old neighborhood where you grew up and enjoyed life and finding tumbleweed blowing through the streets.

Let’s get it back to what made it the most watched message board in the industry. Stop this moderation nonsense.

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**Author:** ![jpope](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/jpope/32/59425_2.png) [@jpope](https://forum.nachi.org/u/jpope)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2009, 2:15am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/is-it-just-my-imagination/38079/12 "2009-04-21T02:15:24Z")

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I think that sums it very well James. . .

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**Author:** ![ppendley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7ea924/32.png) [@ppendley](https://forum.nachi.org/u/ppendley)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2009, 4:48am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/is-it-just-my-imagination/38079/13 "2009-04-21T04:48:35Z")

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Ditto to Jeff.

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**Author:** ![bwiley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8c91f0/32.png) [@bwiley](https://forum.nachi.org/u/bwiley)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2009, 12:20pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/is-it-just-my-imagination/38079/14 "2009-04-21T12:20:57Z")

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I didn’t stop by for a couple of weeks due to various reasons. Not much changed, which is sad…

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**Author:** ![mkyriacou](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/mkyriacou/32/210032_2.png) [@mkyriacou](https://forum.nachi.org/u/mkyriacou)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2009, 1:09pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/is-it-just-my-imagination/38079/15 "2009-04-21T13:09:12Z")

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99% of all posts and threads make it to the MB. The 1% that doesn’t is bashing NACHI and/or members of NACHI in some way shape or form.  
Far be it for me to decide what you and others read here on our MB James. When it comes to bashing NACHI as a moderator I draw the line. I speak only for myself, what other moderators do is beyond my control.

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**Author:** ![jbushart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@jbushart](https://forum.nachi.org/u/jbushart)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2009, 1:31pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/is-it-just-my-imagination/38079/16 "2009-04-21T13:31:49Z")

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Sometimes NACHI deserves to be “bashed”, Mario. Particularly, when NACHI does stupid things…like having moderators filtering thoughts that they feel are inappropriate and slowing down and already slowing flow of posts.

Through “bashing”, many good things and many necessary improvements have come our way over the years. Now, all we get to hear is the hyperbole without the “bashing”. For this reason, the message board has lost its edge…

Those who have been banished from the message board must remain banned if they simply want to post “Good morning”, while every other thought of every other person should be free to be shared. What you (or some other moderator) consider “bashing” others may consider valid criticism, astute observation, or necessary comments that should be addressed.

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**Author:** ![badair](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/badair/32/166699_2.png) [@badair](https://forum.nachi.org/u/badair)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2009, 1:56pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/is-it-just-my-imagination/38079/17 "2009-04-21T13:56:05Z")

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“quotes” are mine

A business “or organization” which takes no regular inventory usually goes broke. Taking a commercial inventory is a fact-finding and a fact-facing process. It is an effort to discover the truth about the stock-in-trade. One object is to disclose damaged or unsalable goods, to get rid of them promptly and without regret. If the owner and members of the business “or organization” is to be successful, he cannot fool himself about values.

to download the rest of this helpful book [click here](http://anonpress.org/e-aa/lite.htm) to find a path away from egoism.

just in case you aren’t familiar with the word, here is the definition

**Egoism** can be a descriptive or a normative position.

Psychological egoism, the most famous descriptive position, claims that each person has but one ultimate aim: her own welfare.

Normative forms of egoism make claims about what one ought to do, rather than describe what one does do.

Ethical egoism claims that it is necessary and sufficient for an action to be morally right that it maximize one’s self-interest.

Rational egoism claims that it is necessary and sufficient for an action to be rational that it maximize one’s self-interest.

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**Author:** ![jvogan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/jvogan/32/1950_2.png) [@jvogan](https://forum.nachi.org/u/jvogan)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2009, 3:59pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/is-it-just-my-imagination/38079/18 "2009-04-21T15:59:56Z")

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> [@mkyriacou](#):
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> 99% of all posts and threads make it to the MB. The 1% that doesn’t is bashing NACHI and/or members of NACHI in some way shape or form.  
> Far be it for me to decide what you and others read here on _our_ MB James. When it comes to bashing NACHI as a moderator I draw the line. I speak only for myself, what other moderators do is beyond my control.

It’s OUR MB too, Mario. And personally, I don’t need you, or anyone else, drawing any lines for me. I can decide what to pay any attention to or not. It has already been proved that moderators will break their own rules if it serves their “agenda”. Healthy debate is not only no longer encouraged here, it is not allowed.

Tumbleweeds indeed. :roll:

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**Author:** ![dvalley](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/dvalley/32/206092_2.png) [@dvalley](https://forum.nachi.org/u/dvalley)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2009, 4:27pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/is-it-just-my-imagination/38079/19 "2009-04-21T16:27:24Z")

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Moderation has definitely affected the number of participants here on this message board.

I hope all you moderators (MB police) are proud of the disservice that you did for many members that had participated here on a daily basis.

You should be ashamed of yourselves.

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**Author:** ![jbraun](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/jbraun/32/536_2.png) [@jbraun](https://forum.nachi.org/u/jbraun)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2009, 5:17pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/is-it-just-my-imagination/38079/20 "2009-04-21T17:17:58Z")

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> [@jvogan](#):
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> It has already been proved that moderators will break their own rules if it serves their “agenda”. :roll:

I believe most people saw that was going to happen when the details of moderation was announced. ](\*,)  
We need to write this mistake off and act like it never happened. :shock:

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