Is this panel upside down, or is the picture wrong?

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#1

Originally Posted By: jtedesco
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I found this picture on a similar site and thought there was something wrong here?


Is the panel upside down, or is the picture wrong?

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#2

Originally Posted By: James D Mosier
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Do I see a neutral wire going to a breaker, or a hot white wire going to the neutral bar?

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#3

Originally Posted By: Mike Parks
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Jim


What you see is as follows.

Left side breaker is a GFCI with a grounded conductor from the circuit to the breaker. a grounded conductor (part of the GFCI) going to the grounding bar. Two ungrounded conductors from the circuit(s) to the breaker. (Square D allows this however I am not sure about this on this breaker). The two ungrounded conductors are not allowed here because the ungrounded conductors (same leg) are sharing a grounded conductor. (multi-feed).

The right side breaker is also a GFCI. It is missing the ungrounded conductor to the breaker. Why???

Mike P.

#4

Originally Posted By: jtedesco
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I have already informed the owner of the problem with this image over a year ago, and in person while at a meeting in Orlando last October.

Maybe someone else could send an email asking him to fix the image.

I downloaded it and now it rests in NACHI country!

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#5

Originally Posted By: Mike Parks
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Now that Joe has reposted the picture I will change my post.


The breaker on the right which is now on the left has a grounded conductor from the grounding bar to the breaker. Why? It also has a grounded counductor from the breaker (part of the breaker) to the grounding conductor. This is ok.

This breaker does nothing.

Also the dust which was on the top is now on the bottom. This makes sense now. I could not figure out how they did this unless this panel was installed south of the equator.

Mike P.

#6

Originally Posted By: hgordon
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note the following:


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#7

Originally Posted By: Bob Badger
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What is a Master Disconnect?

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#8

Originally Posted By: hgordon
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