# item in panal **URL:** \ **Category:** Electrical Inspections\ **Created:** [December 13, 2006, 9:22pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/item-in-panal/10652 "2006-12-13T21:22:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![WHI](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f17d59/32.png) [@WHI](https://forum.nachi.org/u/WHI)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2006, 9:22pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/item-in-panal/10652/1 "2006-12-13T21:22:16Z")
I need to know what this item is. I found it located in the main panal attached to a 20 amp breaker. Thanks, WHI ![electric panal (3).jpg](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/original/3X/9/4/94700aba9ced7328f0418551a83489edd4c165ad.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![jwilliams4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/278dde/32.png) [@jwilliams4](https://forum.nachi.org/u/jwilliams4)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2006, 9:23pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/item-in-panal/10652/2 "2006-12-13T21:23:29Z")
Doorbell transformer, maybe… 20 amp breaker may be a bit much… ---
**Author:** ![mlarson](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/mlarson/32/89225_2.png) [@mlarson](https://forum.nachi.org/u/mlarson)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2006, 9:34pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/item-in-panal/10652/3 "2006-12-13T21:34:26Z")
It shoud not be “in” the panel either. ---
**Author:** ![WHI](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f17d59/32.png) [@WHI](https://forum.nachi.org/u/WHI)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2006, 9:43pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/item-in-panal/10652/4 "2006-12-13T21:43:24Z")
Thank you for the quick reply. I’ll inform the customer of the situation. Thanks again, WHI ---
**Author:** ![pabernathy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/pabernathy/32/178230_2.png) [@pabernathy](https://forum.nachi.org/u/pabernathy)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2006, 10:20pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/item-in-panal/10652/5 "2006-12-13T22:20:32Z")
Are you an HI…?..If so consider joining NACHI…we have a great Electrical Entrance Course…🙂 Yes, it is a doorbell transformer and it should not be in the electrical panel. ---
**Author:** ![cfuoco](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/cfuoco/32/1104_2.png) [@cfuoco](https://forum.nachi.org/u/cfuoco)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2006, 12:36am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/item-in-panal/10652/6 "2006-12-14T00:36:49Z")
I know it shouldn’t be in the panel but why? ---
**Author:** ![rromoser](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/rromoser/32/1832_2.png) [@rromoser](https://forum.nachi.org/u/rromoser)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2006, 12:53am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/item-in-panal/10652/7 "2006-12-14T00:53:07Z")
The secondary low voltage side wiring is not rated to be in the same enclosure as 120/240v wiring. It also has limited heat dissipation inside the panel. ---
**Author:** ![pabernathy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/pabernathy/32/178230_2.png) [@pabernathy](https://forum.nachi.org/u/pabernathy)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2006, 2:23am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/item-in-panal/10652/8 "2006-12-15T02:23:56Z")
Well said Mr. Romoser…with that additional heat…it could melt insulation…as stated…cause the transformer to overheat and burn up , maybe catch fire…and well…end in a rather nasty situation. ---
**Author:** ![Greg\_Fretwell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/f1d935/32.png) [@Greg\_Fretwell](https://forum.nachi.org/u/Greg_Fretwell)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2006, 3:52am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/item-in-panal/10652/9 "2006-12-15T03:52:09Z")
I don’t see the heat as much of a problem as the class 2 wiring inside the panel.