Originally Posted By: syared
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Are wall sconces over a bathtub suppose to be GFCI protected? It’s a regular tub, not a spa.
Are wall sconces over a bathtub suppose to be GFCI protected? It’s a regular tub, not a spa.
Originally Posted By: jpope
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No. But they must be outside the area specified in NEC 410.4(D)
Originally Posted By: Blaine Wiley
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great diagram, Jeff!
Originally Posted By: bbadger
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It is but I must pint out wall sconces are not prohibited from ‘the zone’.
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| 410.4(D) Bathtub and Shower Areas. No parts of cord-connected luminaires (fixtures), hanging luminaires (fixtures), lighting track, pendants, or ceiling-suspended (paddle) fans shall be located within a zone measured 900 mm (3 ft) horizontally and 2.5 m (8 ft) vertically from the top of the bathtub rim or shower stall threshold. This zone is all encompassing and includes the zone directly over the tub or shower stall. |
Originally Posted By: jpope
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You’re right Bob. It even says that in the diagram
Originally Posted By: syared
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Thanks!
Originally Posted By: Greg Fretwell
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If this is a shower you want to look for a “suitable for wet locations” if it is where the shower can spray it.
I suppose Darwin is the only limiting factor to who relamps while standing in the water.
Originally Posted By: bbadger
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| Greg Fretwell wrote: |
| I suppose Darwin is the only limiting factor to who relamps while standing in the water. |
Looks like it. 
I would not feel comfortable installing dry location wall sconces above a tub but there is not an NEC not to do it.
Originally Posted By: jkormos
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hey they make nice soap dishes
Originally Posted By: jsieg
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O.K. so what’s the rules for recessed dan lighting???
Originally Posted By: away
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Jason,
Per the image posted by Jeff, they would be allowed above or within the zone. I would like to believe they would need to be rated for a wet location as well but can't find anything on that offhand unless. And I don't know if Greg's post is referencing the sconces in particular or luminaires in general.
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Originally Posted By: bbadger
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| away wrote: |
| I would like to believe they would need to be rated for a wet location |
If it is a shower stall as well as a tub the fixtures will br required to be listed for wet locations.
Originally Posted By: mgault
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Above my garden tub I have 2 not rated for wet locations but the covers must remain in place (can’s with flat plastic ‘covers’)
The one above the separate shower stall is rated for a wet or damp locations...
All are 9 foot ceilings so I guess they coulda' put in anything 
Originally Posted By: away
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Bob,
Thanks for clearing that up, I kind of figured they would need to be. I just haven't made it through the entire IRC and NEC yet. 
Just to be safe, when I find them I always recommend ascertaining whether they are listed for wet locations or not. Especially the shower stalls that have really low ceilings, 7 or 7.5 feet, where water/moisture is more likely going to have an impact and possible consequences.
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