Living in squalor....

The worst I ever did was an 800-SF condo. There were three of us doing the inspection because we were told that the place was in poor condition and would take a long time to inspect. It wasn’t that the place was in poor condition, it was just full of cats and cat poop. Cat poop everywhere–floor, beds, countertops, sinks, tables… Absolutely the most disgusting place I’ve ever been in. The lady was 83, and the HOA was forcing her out (HOA’s here in California have a lot of power). The HOA President, who was there at the inspection, told us that she had about 50 cats living inside. The stench was so bad that we smelled it in the parking lot as we parked about four condos away. We didn’t know where the smell was coming from; we just thought there was a sewer plant close by. After the inspection, everyone went home and took showers. I threw my clothes away; I could have washed those clothes a hundred times and still not gotten that stench out of them.

I had one in San Antonio that was an investor special. Tenants sleeping inside, refused to get up for the inspection. I started with the exterior, many concerns, structural and otherwise. When I went inside it was dark so I located the light switch and flicked it on. Words can not describe the filth. From the front entry the living room and kitchen were visible. There were dirty dishes and partially eaten meals scattered all over the place. The rats and roaches didn’t even flinch when I turned on the light. I turned around and left and told the client I couldn’t complete the inspection due to health risk. The worst part was the tricycle in the front yard, that meant at least one child was living in that hell hole.

Hello Gents!

You have just described 98% of all meth labs I have been in. Whilst squalor doesn’t necessarily equal meth, meth almost always equals squalor. I busted a meth house about two weeks ago, and nearly gagged at the sight (thanks to the respirator, I couldn’t smell anything). By contrast, I busted a marijuana grow last weekend, (which also included other drugs and a baby) in an otherwise very nice house (see photo).

Squalid living conditions are one of the visual indicators for identifying clandestine drug labs, meth labs, and meth houses. Even drug houses that may not meet your State’s definition of a “drug lab,” may still contain elevated levels of meth, LSD, and a variety of chemical and biological exposure issues.

Although I have thousands of photos from drug labs that will never see the light of day, if someone is interested in drug lab photos, I have posted many such photos at:
http://www.forensic-applications.com/meth/recognition.html

I’m currently getting, on average, about one lab every two weeks (about 30 in 2006). Yesterday, I received a subpoena to testify later this week in a criminal case (in an undisclosed State) involving kids in a meth house. Plenty of time to slay some dragons!

Cheers!
Caoimhín P. Connell

(The opinions expressed here are exclusively my personal opinions and do not necessarily reflect my professional opinion, opinion of my employer, agency, peers, or professional affiliates. The above post is for information only and does not reflect professional advice and is not intended to supercede the professional advice of others.)

AMDG

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Wow Caoimhín,

Love the photo, real classy. I remembering seeing ‘low-scale’ * operations recycling old wall compound buckets. The colors are pretty here.

As for the condition of homes based on the drug they are manufacturing, I’ve seen it too. You can notice some items like crack and pcp are average people and ‘clean’. While pot growers, being their product takes time to mature and enviroment effects the product; they try to stay very low key and their homes are usually very well kept. Now ice-heads, they don’t care. The product is cheap to make, extremely effective, and its side-effects lend towards messy homes.

FYI: A home can be cleaned up, carpets can be replaced, but don’t forget to go with your gut feelings about your safety.

tom*

Dave;
I hope you did a quick 180 and said SeeYaaaaaa

Hey, Patrick.

You left NACHI when you left San Antonio?

Glad to see you, though.

The best part of working for myself is that I can just say no!

Yes except the peson you are trying to help is not the culprit.
I too will walk away from a miserable client and did this week.

… Cookie

Once I was called to talk about adding to a couple’s home. When I got there, they showed me a totally empty living room, a totally empty dining room, two totally empty bedrooms, and a master bedroom which had a bed on one wall, and a mountain of clothes piled against the other wall. When we sat down to discuss my services, they let two dogs into the kitchen, ripped open a 25 pound bag of kibbles, and let the dogs have at it. Kibbles flew under the range, under the dishwasher, under the refrigerator and under my feet.

Needless to say, I didn’t send them a proposal as I had promised. After about three weeks they called me to ask where my proposal was. I said “gee, I sent it, I don’t know what could have happened to it…I’ll send another copy.” I didn’t send that one either.

[quote=Richard A. Hetzel]
Once I was called to talk about adding to a couple’s home. When I got there, they showed me a totally empty living room, a totally empty dining room, two totally empty bedrooms, and a master bedroom which had a bed on one wall, and a mountain of clothes piled against the other wall. When we sat down to discuss my services, they let two dogs into the kitchen, ripped open a 25 pound bag of kibbles, and let the dogs have at it. Kibbles flew under the range, under the dishwasher, under the refrigerator and under my feet.

Needless to say, I didn’t send them a proposal as I had promised. After about three weeks they called me to ask where my proposal was. I said “gee, I sent it, I don’t know what could have happened to it…I’ll send another copy.” I didn’t send that one either./quote

I think I would have handled that differently .
I would have said ,Sorry I did not get back to you but it might be better
if you where to find some one else to do a propasal for you.
No explanation no telling a fib just refuse and do not get in a discusion.

… Cookie

Drugs, alcoholism, depression, Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome, mental illness, any combination of these… many things can damage a person so badly that they just don’t care anymore or don’t understand.

I have walked out of places

Did you leave some vowels behind? Sorry, Thomas. I know you’ve heard it before, but I just couldn’t resist. Welcome to NACHI on your 14th post.

On the subject of alcoholism, this image was from an appartment I inspected 2 days ago, I wish I had been able to grab a shot of the kitchen, it was literaly covered to a depth of 3 ft in empty Beer cases and cans, my guess was that the tennant doesn’t cook often :neutral:

Regards

Gerry

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Hey, Gerry.

Did you ever see the picture of the home gym that I inspected in a professional football player’s home?

C’mon Gerry,

Tell the truth. That’s your place, when you woke up last Saturday morning.

Gerry,
That looks like the living room at about any college fraternity.
Go Mizzou.
Stu

No way Dave, I recycle :smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :wink:

The shame of this place that the single occupant was a woman in her 50’s, I did the inspection at 10:00am and she was out of it already :shock: :neutral:

Regards

Gerry

Was her name Margarita and did she speak Spanish? :margarit:

Gerry, I didn’t think you’d sink so low as to post a picture of my place, and particularly since you were a guest.