Looks like ontario licensing is dead for now

Ontario government business dies with prorogation
Published on Tuesday October 16, 2012
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Kenyon Wallace
Toronto Star
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Dalton McGuinty’s decision to resign and prorogue the fall legislative session brings all parliamentary business to a halt.
And that means the provincial agenda has essentially been wiped clean — all the work that went into government and private members’ bills, and committee meetings is consigned to the shelves of history.
Here are answers to five questions about the impact of prorogation on our democratic system:

  1. What happens to all the bills on the order paper? As University of Toronto political science professor Nelson Wiseman says, “Everything is dead.” All bills, even those that have reached third reading — the final review conducted before legislation is given royal assent — are thrown out. If the government or private members want to revisit the same legislation when the house returns, they will have to table it again for first reading.
  2. How many bills died when McGuinty prorogued the legislature? During the 40th legislative assembly, which began on Nov. 22, 2011, there were 132 bills tabled. Of those, 14 received royal assent, 10 lost at reading, and 109 died. Of those that died, 10 were government bills, including the Ambulance Amendment Act (Air Ambulances), introduced to prevent any future abuse of power after the Star uncovered problems at ORNGE.
  3. What happens to business before committees that review legislation? All business before all nine permanent standing committees dies. The makeup of committees, which can have no more than nine members, generally reflects the composition of the house. Each committee is chaired by either a member of the government or the opposition. Chairs cannot vote, except in the case of a tie. For example, the standing committee on finance and economic affairs, which was tasked with determining if Energy Minister Chris Bentley was in contempt of parliament, had more opposition MPPs able to vote than government members, reflecting the Liberal government’s minority position. The makeup of committees is negotiated by the house leaders of each party.
    Said one Liberal insider: “(The finance) committee was hearing the Bentley issue, so when the new government comes in, and they negotiate again, it will be an interesting time because they can play around with the committee makeup.”
  4. What’s the point of prorogation anyway? Prorogation is a legitimate measure federal and provincial governments can use when they have no more business to present to the house, says Wiseman. But in recent years, the practice has become controversial as an increasing number of party leaders used the move for political reasons. By proroguing the Ontario legislature, McGuinty stops the daily attacks on his party in the house related to the cancelled power plants in Oakville and Mississauga, and saves Bentley from a contempt motion. In December 2008, Prime Minister Stephen Harper prorogued Parliament, preventing a Liberal-NDP coalition from defeating the government in a non-confidence motion. Harper prorogued Parliament again in December 2009 for two months, conveniently shutting down an inquiry into the treatment of Afghan detainees.
  5. What happens now? MPPs can return to their constituencies and await the recall of the legislature, which will most likely occur in the spring after the Liberal party elects a new


Easy and understandable. Thanks Roy.

Thanks Timothy .

Now we need to get ready for round two coming in a year or two .
Please all Homies get your info and facts ready to send to your member of Parliament let them know your thoughts and how Inspectors are far down on the list of improvements needed .
Any who do not have a copy of ALL the BBB complaints send my email and I will send you a set . Thanks again … Roy

Timothy either way is good news for OntarioAchi. We don’t want interference from the Government unless we are pushed into it. We want to get all Inspectors in Ontario to a equal level at the least cost for Seasoned Inspectors and Newbies.
We have already been looking into the CCHI designation that is working in Alberta and will carry this over to Ontario. The facts are still the same that anyone can be a Home Inspector and that hurts both Newbies and Seasoned along with all the individuals, buying or selling a home. This actually can be really good as it allows us extra time to repair what is broken in the Home Inspection Industry in Ontario before approaching the table along with the Government.

Home inspection laws in most any state here in the U.S. implements a basic, minimum standard, that the RE agents want; so HI’s can write soft, basic reports that the RE’s and their “association buddies” push for.

These laws are pushed in to play so HI’s will write soft reports, allowed by law, so the home buyer is not alarmed, the home sells, and the RE’s, office brokers, lenders, all make their commissons.

In Texas, the RE commisson regulates home inspectors. Talk about a conflict of interest. In California, the eighth largest economy in the world, there are no home inspection laws.

You must ask all of your lawmakers “why are they needed”?

I basically agree with Gary as I’m a firm believer in market self-regulation. But that does not - and will not - prevent some jurisdictions from legislating (I currently inspect in NY, VT, QC and ONT and only NY regulates it, so far while QC semi-regulates it). So it may be a better idea to get prepared for it. And if the legislator sees a well oiled, smooth running operation, they have little option to oppose it.

Best to all


Now and before the ledge sits again is the time to get in touch with your MLA and let them know what your position is on Home Inspection licencing. Make them aware of what HI is all about so that when it comes up they have some idea of it’s all about.
In Alberta the “Service Alberta” department administers the Fair Trading Act that was amended to include Home Inspectors.
I would have preferred the department that administers the professions acts.
Under this legislation HI would have been qualified as professional and therefore responsible for their our actions instead they are relegated to being employees.
The major flaw in the Alberta regs is the stipulation that the HI is an employee and has to be employed by a licenced Home Inspection business that can be set up by anyone that can buy E & O insurance and get bonding.