# Master Inspector Certification Board files Petition to Cancel GAHI's deceptively-similar mark **URL:** \ **Category:** Certified Master Inspector (CMI) Discussion\ **Created:** [December 1, 2021, 10:59pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/master-inspector-certification-board-files-petition-to-cancel-gahis-deceptively-similar-mark/207696 "2021-12-01T22:59:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![gromicko](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/gromicko/32/58172_2.png) [@gromicko](https://forum.nachi.org/u/gromicko)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2021, 10:59pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/master-inspector-certification-board-files-petition-to-cancel-gahis-deceptively-similar-mark/207696/1 "2021-12-01T22:59:21Z")
![MICB-vs-GAHI-petition-to-cancel](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/original/3X/2/d/2de767f4fa3c3c3971a00535aa1e045701700f2a.png) Download and read MICB’s _Petition to Cancel_: [Master Inspector Certification Board vs GAHI](https://certifiedmasterinspector.org/micb-vs-gahi) ---
**Author:** ![ryoung7](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/ryoung7/32/188798_2.png) [@ryoung7](https://forum.nachi.org/u/ryoung7)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2021, 11:24pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/master-inspector-certification-board-files-petition-to-cancel-gahis-deceptively-similar-mark/207696/2 "2021-12-01T23:24:36Z")
You consider, Code Certified Master Inspectors - CCMI’s an affront? ---
**Author:** ![gromicko](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/gromicko/32/58172_2.png) [@gromicko](https://forum.nachi.org/u/gromicko)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2021, 11:39pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/master-inspector-certification-board-files-petition-to-cancel-gahis-deceptively-similar-mark/207696/3 "2021-12-01T23:39:12Z")
It’s an infringement, yes. You can’t just throw a word in front of our Registered Trademark that has been in use since 1998, anymore than you can open up a fast food chain called Code Kentucky Fried Chicken. A Trademark protects itself and the space around it. ---
**Author:** ![rdurson](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/rdurson/32/334118_2.png) [@rdurson](https://forum.nachi.org/u/rdurson)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 4:15am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/master-inspector-certification-board-files-petition-to-cancel-gahis-deceptively-similar-mark/207696/4 "2021-12-02T04:15:14Z")
Sic’em Nick! Boy, you gotta watch your backside like a hawk these days. Don’t let them chip away at NACHI intellectual property. ---
**Author:** ![ryoung7](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/ryoung7/32/188798_2.png) [@ryoung7](https://forum.nachi.org/u/ryoung7)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 6:23am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/master-inspector-certification-board-files-petition-to-cancel-gahis-deceptively-similar-mark/207696/5 "2021-12-02T06:23:08Z")
> [@gromicko](#): > > They intentionally did that to be deceptively similar. I concur. Not legally proficient when it comes to trade marks, but I do understand your point. Thank you for clarifying your position. ---
**Author:** ![bcawhern1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/bcawhern1/32/408713_2.png) [@bcawhern1](https://forum.nachi.org/u/bcawhern1)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 8:39pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/master-inspector-certification-board-files-petition-to-cancel-gahis-deceptively-similar-mark/207696/6 "2021-12-02T20:39:29Z")
This is how it appears in GA ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/original/3X/4/9/493ad8124305841686abb04b3918d5dc7144f1bb.png) ---
**Author:** ![tglaze](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/tglaze/32/362210_2.png) [@tglaze](https://forum.nachi.org/u/tglaze)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 9:35pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/master-inspector-certification-board-files-petition-to-cancel-gahis-deceptively-similar-mark/207696/9 "2021-12-02T21:35:05Z")
Boils down to Certification Marks vs. Trademarks. Good article on the difference between the two. > **[Trademark or certification mark? The standards body's dilemma | Insights | ...](https://www.dlapiper.com/en/us/insights/publications/2012/12/trademark-or-certification-mark-the-standards-bo__/)** > > \When standards bodies look to protect the marks associated with their standards, they are faced with a dilemma: should they use trademarks or certification marks? One may think the answer is obvious: “certification” seems to be what standards... ---
**Author:** ![gromicko](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/gromicko/32/58172_2.png) [@gromicko](https://forum.nachi.org/u/gromicko)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 9:57pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/master-inspector-certification-board-files-petition-to-cancel-gahis-deceptively-similar-mark/207696/10 "2021-12-02T21:57:38Z")
Ours is a certification mark that has been in continuous use since 1998. ---
**Author:** ![tglaze](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/tglaze/32/362210_2.png) [@tglaze](https://forum.nachi.org/u/tglaze)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 10:32pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/master-inspector-certification-board-files-petition-to-cancel-gahis-deceptively-similar-mark/207696/11 "2021-12-02T22:32:13Z")
So I guess using a trademark that requires a certification mark is not valid? ---
**Author:** ![gromicko](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/gromicko/32/58172_2.png) [@gromicko](https://forum.nachi.org/u/gromicko)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 10:53pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/master-inspector-certification-board-files-petition-to-cancel-gahis-deceptively-similar-mark/207696/12 "2021-12-02T22:53:45Z")
Not if it infringes on our certification mark. ---
**Author:** ![gromicko](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/gromicko/32/58172_2.png) [@gromicko](https://forum.nachi.org/u/gromicko)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 11:00pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/master-inspector-certification-board-files-petition-to-cancel-gahis-deceptively-similar-mark/207696/13 "2021-12-02T23:00:30Z")
Got it filed today: ![Screen Shot 2021-12-02 at 3.55.09 PM](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/original/3X/f/0/f00e205fc95fc422ffd9bff4038d2c0e56f79545.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![tglaze](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/tglaze/32/362210_2.png) [@tglaze](https://forum.nachi.org/u/tglaze)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 11:01pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/master-inspector-certification-board-files-petition-to-cancel-gahis-deceptively-similar-mark/207696/14 "2021-12-02T23:01:28Z")
So basically, you’re going to have to argue the word “certification” and not “code” and I still don’t see that in Trademark infringement. Just don’t see it as a “slam dunk”. ---
**Author:** ![tglaze](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/tglaze/32/362210_2.png) [@tglaze](https://forum.nachi.org/u/tglaze)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 11:03pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/master-inspector-certification-board-files-petition-to-cancel-gahis-deceptively-similar-mark/207696/15 "2021-12-02T23:03:00Z")
I read it. Personally I would not beat my chest at this stage. ---
**Author:** ![gromicko](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/gromicko/32/58172_2.png) [@gromicko](https://forum.nachi.org/u/gromicko)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2021, 12:13am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/master-inspector-certification-board-files-petition-to-cancel-gahis-deceptively-similar-mark/207696/16 "2021-12-03T00:13:01Z")
It’s most definitely infringement. You can’t just stick a word in front of our mark and think that you aren’t infringing. The test is: Will it likely cause confusion in the market place when used in the same industry? I’d say that these two marks are confusingly similar: Certified Master Inspector® Code Certified Master Inspector ---
**Author:** ![tglaze](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/tglaze/32/362210_2.png) [@tglaze](https://forum.nachi.org/u/tglaze)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2021, 12:25am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/master-inspector-certification-board-files-petition-to-cancel-gahis-deceptively-similar-mark/207696/17 "2021-12-03T00:25:04Z")
> [@gromicko](#): > > But if they disagree, they can hire law firms to fight us. Lawyer up. I’m sure they will. And 1.5 mil in legal fees is a BIG dream and makes the legal profession a laughing stock in cases like this. Go for it Nick!! I actually hope your side loses this one. ---
**Author:** ![gromicko](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/gromicko/32/58172_2.png) [@gromicko](https://forum.nachi.org/u/gromicko)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2021, 12:25am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/master-inspector-certification-board-files-petition-to-cancel-gahis-deceptively-similar-mark/207696/18 "2021-12-03T00:25:58Z")
I’m patient. ---
**Author:** ![gromicko](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/gromicko/32/58172_2.png) [@gromicko](https://forum.nachi.org/u/gromicko)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2021, 12:46am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/master-inspector-certification-board-files-petition-to-cancel-gahis-deceptively-similar-mark/207696/20 "2021-12-03T00:46:12Z")
That has zero chance of sticking. We’ll have no problem cancelling it. ---
**Author:** ![tglaze](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/tglaze/32/362210_2.png) [@tglaze](https://forum.nachi.org/u/tglaze)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2021, 1:02am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/master-inspector-certification-board-files-petition-to-cancel-gahis-deceptively-similar-mark/207696/21 "2021-12-03T01:02:25Z")
They filed a trademark. Not a certification mark. Their trademark is based on being compliant with the ICC certification mark. Again, it’s Certification Mark vs. Trademark. It will be interesting. ---
**Author:** ![gromicko](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/gromicko/32/58172_2.png) [@gromicko](https://forum.nachi.org/u/gromicko)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2021, 1:07am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/master-inspector-certification-board-files-petition-to-cancel-gahis-deceptively-similar-mark/207696/22 "2021-12-03T01:07:59Z")
I just checked. Their president is ASHI. LOL. ASHI must have some kind of weird, thing for me or something. And they are about to spend a fortune losing for a 10th time in a row. ---
**Author:** ![ddagostino](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/ddagostino/32/60136_2.png) [@ddagostino](https://forum.nachi.org/u/ddagostino)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2021, 1:14am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/master-inspector-certification-board-files-petition-to-cancel-gahis-deceptively-similar-mark/207696/23 "2021-12-03T01:14:26Z")
> [@gromicko](#): > > been in continuous use since 1998 You keep saying that, but it wasn’t “registered” until much later. Try the actual “factual” truth once in awhile, not hyberole. And you still haven’t explained why you couldn’t work out a solution without spending all this org’s member’s dues on legal fees. [Next page](https://forum.nachi.org/t/master-inspector-certification-board-files-petition-to-cancel-gahis-deceptively-similar-mark/207696.md?page=2)