Missouri hearing hb553

General Inspection Topics Legislation, Licensing, Ethics & Legal Issues
#1

Committee:
Professional Registration and Licensing

         **Chair:**
     [Brandom,   Ellen - (Rep-160)](http://www.house.mo.gov/member.aspx?district=160)
     **Vice Chair:**
     [Burlison,   Eric-(Rep-136)](http://www.house.mo.gov/member.aspx?district=136)
         **Date:**
     Wednesday, April 13, 2011
      
      
         **Time:**
     12:00pm or Upon Morning Adjournment if After 12:00pm
      
      
         **Location:**
     House Hearing Room 5
      
      
         **Note:**
      
      
      
         **Executive session may be held on any matter referred to   the committee.**
      
      
      
      
      
     
      ***Public Hearings will be conducted for the following   bills:***
         **HB 863 --   PROMPT CREDENTIALING ACT**](http://www.house.mo.gov/billsummary.aspx?bill=HB863)
         **Sponsor: **[Frederick, Keith   J(Rep-149)](http://www.house.mo.gov/member.aspx?district=149)
         Establishes the Prompt Credentialing Act which requires a   health carrier to credential a health care professional within 60 days of   receiving a completed application
         **HB 367 --   AMATEUR UNARMED COMBAT COMPETITIONS**](http://www.house.mo.gov/billsummary.aspx?bill=HB367)
         **Sponsor: **[Meadows, Tim   G(Rep-101)](http://www.house.mo.gov/member.aspx?district=101)
         **Co-Sponsor: **[Walton Gray, Rochelle   W.(Rep-081)](http://www.house.mo.gov/member.aspx?district=081)
         Establishes provisions regulating amateur unarmed combat   competitions 
         **HB 769 -- FIRE   SPRINKLER SYSTEM CONTRACTORS**](http://www.house.mo.gov/billsummary.aspx?bill=HB769)
         **Sponsor: **[Wells, Don D(Rep-147)](http://www.house.mo.gov/member.aspx?district=147)
         **Co-Sponsor: **[Funderburk, Doug   (Rep-012)](http://www.house.mo.gov/member.aspx?district=012)
         Requires any contractor who engages in the installation or   service of fire sprinkler systems to register with the State Fire Marshal 
         **HB 553 --   LICENSURE OF HOME INSPECTORS**](http://www.house.mo.gov/billsummary.aspx?bill=HB553)
         **Sponsor: **[Nance, Bob C(Rep-036)](http://www.house.mo.gov/member.aspx?district=036)
#2

Notice there is no fiscal notes in the licensing bill.

If home inspectors do not show up for this commitee hearing meeting and speak up against the bills, I do not want to here those inspector complaining about licensing, such as I cannot feed my family because I constantly get sued for $10,000 a pop for a $100 hidden defect ($100 repair cost and $9,900 mental distress).

#3

From reading the entire bill, I have come to an obvious conclusion; Missouri inspectors will not be able to limit their liablity anymore.

Dirty Harry from A$HI St.Louis just might get his home inspection licensing afterwards. I hope you are happy Dirty Harry? Look at what your buddies at MAR is doing to our profession.-X

#4

This is the bill http://www.house.mo.gov/billtracking/bills111/biltxt/intro/HB0553I.htm

#5

It looks like if we buy any advertising we are going to have to buy a larger ad:

2. All advertisements, contracts, correspondence, and other documents prepared by an individual performing home inspections under sections 339.900 to 339.933 shall indicate the home inspector’s registration number, name, and address as registered with the board.

#6

Looky here:

(2) Two members shall be at-large members, neither of whom shall be a home inspector.

What do you bet one or both will be Realtors sitting on our board.

#7

I thought moving to Missouri to get away from Kansas laws would be a good move. Not.

I guess I will lower my standards, charge $199 for a 45 minute home inspection, write a basic, 3 page report on nothing but a window or two, and a few electrical outlets. That is what the associations want; all to shaft the home buyers of Missouri.

All the lawmakers want is more campaign funds. They must not care about the future home buyers of Missouri, and the reaming the people will be getting, just as they are in Kansas.

The real winners are the attorneys, who will be handling consumer complaints, as they are in Texas, Florida, and many other states. It is really sad what this country is coming to.

#8

Apparently the proposed Missouri home Inspection Licensing Bill went into overtime today in Jefferson City, MO. The inspection Bill ended up being the last thing being heard before the committee and ended up breaking up after 7:00PM.

We’re told that the Realtors lobbyist (Sam Liklider) had maybe a half a dozen or more realtors lined up to testify about the need for inspection licensing, but their testimony didn’t seem to fly well with the committee.

For example I’m told the Pro-Licensing group indicated they thought there might be about 2700-2900 home inspectors in Missouri BUT they weren’t quite sure exactly where they were. we’re told that some KC realtors testified that out in KANSAS there’s about 250 licensed inspectors, the Bill out there (duplicated for Missouri) is well thought of and the inspectors in Kansas really like it. According to realtors a home inspection Board doesn’t have to be costly / It can be run on about $16,000 per year like the Kansas Board does.

I’m told the Inspectors present were UNANIMOUS in OPPOSING the Bill EXCEPT that Sam Liklider (the realtors Lobbyist) *had a letter from 1 Home Inspector in a very SMALL southwestern Missouri RURAL town of about 2,800 people that supported the Licensing Bill because it could help bring codes OR something similar to the state. *

Other than this 1 Inspectors testimony the other inspectors that wrote letters or testified opposed the Bill. That includes the ASHI, NAHI and NACHI Inspectors of Missouri.

Gotta wait and see where it goes.

#9

Thx for the info Dan!!!

#10

Dan you rock. Keep us updated.

#11

“but their testimony didn’t seem to fly well with the committee.”

You are basing this on what?

was the inspectors letter compelling to the committee, in your opinion?

#12

It was somewhat odd that I had an inspection yesterday afternoon from a new RE agent. I did email a comment to the people in the reply #1 above.

I hope lawmakers realize that 339.906 line #4 violates rights to privacy, and this whole bill, as the one in Kansas, may be unconstitutional.

#13

Were you there Dan?
Who told you what was said in this committee?
Who are the “we’re” that you keep mentioning?

Let’s not go down this path of innuendos as it happened in the KS fiasco… spell it out, so we can plan a counter-attack as needed against the group that is pushing the agenda. At least letters were written by the HI’s to help off-set this testimony you mentioned to know a lot about.

A old philosophy - If you pet a snake, you take a chance to get bitten - :wink:

#14

Dan is connected everywhere. You really do not want to know his sources, and he most likely will not tell you.

#15

and I supect you don’t know either…

#16

After watching the fiasco that unfolded in Kansas and observing those who were steamrolled by real estate salesmen as they quipped, compromised and criticized their way to a horrific licensing law that (among a variety of other travesties) put a trial lawyer and used house salesman over them on their licensing board, I learned what not to do to fight a similar home inspector licensing bill in Missouri.

Last year, a group of us went to the State Capital to confront an outgoing legislator who announced his decision to support HI licensing legislation that he had previously fought against. When I brought the attention of the mediato the sleazy manner in which it was being handled only a few inspectors would go on the record. Others ran for cover. The bill died.

This year in anticipation of another push, I set my own plan in motion. I won’t tell you what it was or how it was accomplished since I did not represent anyone but myself.

Having been in personal contact with all members of the Professional Licensing and Registration Committee since February (and as recently as 10:35 a.m., this morning), I have been assured that this billwill not become law.

I have shared the details of this information only with people I trust and will not violate that trust by publishing anything, here, or even discussing it with anyone else. I offer no apologies or further explanation to anyone.

Suffice it to say that the disease that infected and destroyed our profession in Kansas has not spread to this state.

That is all that I intend to make public regarding anything that I am involved in as it relates to HB 553. I encourage others to continue to fight this and future bills and to add to the chaos in any manner that they wish.

#17

Thanks Jim.

#18

You’re welcome, Billy. I deleted the post. Legislators are still in session.

#19

I suggest the next time somebody wants to know what has gone on in a commitee meeting hearing, they be present giving testimony. As far as I am concerned, you lose the right to b i t c h about licensing if you do not take the time to attend.

#20

Remember, the committee chair can authorize the bill to go to the floor without excepting a vote from the other committee members. If the committee chair has no morals, it can be passed in executive session.