# NACHI to toughen requirements for 2004. **URL:** \ **Category:** Public Archive\ **Created:** [November 22, 2003, 12:00am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/nachi-to-toughen-requirements-for-2004/172143 "2003-11-22T00:00:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
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**Originally Posted By: gromicko** **This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.** * * * Nick * * * ---
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**Originally Posted By: jremas** **This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.** * * * Great, now all we need to do is verify that the person taking the exam online is the actual person who signs up. Nothing there to stop someone from taking the exam for another person… we discussed this awhile back but nothing ever came of it. * * * – Jeff Remas REMAS Inspections, Inc. Northeastern PA & the Poconos [www.NEPAinspector.com](http://www.NEPAinspector.com) 570-362-1598 ---
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**Originally Posted By: Nick Gromicko** **This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.** * * * We use affidavits. Its a lot like all of our other requirements: We can't be sure our members are actually paying attention in continuing educaion, or abiding by the code of ethics, or following a standards of practice, or paying their E&O premiums, or checking the furnace filter, etc... Nick PS Our exams (like some national code exams) are open book. * * * ---
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**Originally Posted By: jfarsetta** **This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.** * * * * * * – Joe Farsetta Illigitimi Non Carborundum "Dont let the bastards grind you down..." ---
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**Originally Posted By: Nick Gromicko** **This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.** * * * The Farsetta man strikes again. This is why I love you Joe. Beautiful. Kill "some" in the last sentence with "strives" in it. Nick * * * ---
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**Originally Posted By: Nick Gromicko** **This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.** * * * I’m going to print the full-page release in every REALTOR magazine/newspaper. Nick PS Joe H.: If you want the quote instead of me we can use you. You decide either way. * * * ---
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**Originally Posted By: jfarsetta** **This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.** * * * Done, Big Nick. * * * – Joe Farsetta Illigitimi Non Carborundum "Dont let the bastards grind you down..." ---
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**Originally Posted By: Nick Gromicko** **This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.** * * * Also, I rewrote the first paragraph and edited initial thread post. It reads better. "...that tests its applicants." Nick * * * ---
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**Originally Posted By: jhagarty** **This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.** * * * ![icon_question.gif](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/original/3X/c/b/cb895dac76924bdba266807fa175544e4775e63a.gif) * * * – Joseph Hagarty HouseMaster / Main Line, PA [joseph.hagarty@housemaster.com](mailto:joseph.hagarty@housemaster.com) [www.householdinspector.com](http://www.householdinspector.com) Phone: 610-399-9864 Fax : 610-399-9865 HouseMaster. Home inspections. Done right. ---
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**Originally Posted By: gbeaumont** **This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.** * * * Hi to all I am in complete agreement with the release, any and all things wecan do to show NACHI members are more professional than those of other orgs should be done. Regards Gerry * * * -- Gerry Beaumont NACHI Education Committee e-mail : [education@nachi.org](mailto:education@nachi.org) NACHI phone 484-429-5466 Inspection Depot Education [gbeaumont@inspectiondepot.com](mailto:gbeaumont@inspectiondepot.com) "Education is a journey, not a destination" ---
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**Originally Posted By: evandeven** **This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.** * * * The ethics exam, like NACH’s existing Inspector Examination, will be available to the entire industry, administered and graded online, and free. Before you release this, you might want to get the right organization name! * * * -- Eric Van De Ven Owner/Inspector Magnum Inspections Inc. I get paid to be suspicious when there is nothing to be suspicious about! [www.magnuminspections.com](http://www.magnuminspections.com) ---
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**Originally Posted By: ismetaniuk** **This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.** * * * This membership was a big waste of my time! * * * – Igor Top To Bottom Inspections Glen Spey, NY ---
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**Originally Posted By: Scotty Lee** **This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.** * * * Trying to enforce ethics on an association level is difficult. Most of the states that have meaningful home inspector licensing or regulation have state enforceable ethics. The state has the authority to enforce ethics violations. Those states that are using the NHIE are protecting the consumer more. It takes knowledge of the home inspection profession and the ability to recall that knowledge to pass the NHIE. The level of consumer protection is in direct correlation to the license law in the state and the enforceability of the law in the state, not the regulations of a private association. It is great that NACHI will now be requiring this new test and increasing the requirements. It would be even better if a time limit was placed on the NACHI test. A one or two hour time limit would help to show that the person taking the test has some learned knowledge and is not just looking up the answers in a book. Another point to ponder and it was brought up by Jeff, is the validation of the NACHI test to make sure that the person taking the test is the same person who will be credited with passing it. * * * ---
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**Originally Posted By: jremas** **This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.** * * * The Scotty must be Scotty P. from down south. Right? The only person who would bring up the NHIE. Thanks for agreeing with my validation point, a sore spot with me from the beginning. * * * – Jeff Remas REMAS Inspections, Inc. Northeastern PA & the Poconos [www.NEPAinspector.com](http://www.NEPAinspector.com) 570-362-1598 ---
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**Originally Posted By: Nick Gromicko** **This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.** * * * Scotty, the NACHI exam has a 60 minute time limit already. You have to answer 120 questions in that time. [http://www.nachi.org/aboutexam.htm](http://www.nachi.org/aboutexam.htm) Jeff, we could require proctoring. The NHIE is proctored nationally by a company headquartered only a few miles from me. This company charges $40 to administer, I don't know what EBPHI tacks on to that, but the EBPHI is actually a for-profit company. We also could do what a couple other trade associations, like veterinarians do, and require a second signature on the affidavit attesting that the online exam was taken without assistance. However like we said before, it doesn't mean you abide by the code of ethics, it only means you read it. Nick * * * ---
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**Originally Posted By: Blaine Wiley** **This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.** * * * Scotty, Just to your point of what a great test of knowledge the NHIE is, I had to take the exam for my COUNTY license, and I didn't find it difficult at all. All a test does is measure knowledge. If you know what you are doing, you should pass the test. Nick, The EBPHI must tack on a bunch. I paid $195 to take the test. What a deal. Blaine * * * ---
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**Originally Posted By: Scotty Lee** **This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.** * * * I forgot about the 60 second time limit, how about limiting the time to one session and not multiple sessions. As for the NHIE being a hard exam; well that depends on the knowledge of the individual taking it. If you know the profession and study you will pass. I have no idea how much EBPHI gets from the exam, a good part of the fee goes to the testing service I am sure. * * * ---
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**Originally Posted By: dvalley** **This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.** * * * Ethics exam? Great idea Nick! As Igor stated, Not many of us have ever read the code of ethics. I, too am going to study up on these. [http://www.nachi.org/code\_of\_ethics.htm](http://www.nachi.org/code_of_ethics.htm) When the test is online, I'm ready. ![](upload://dT7PXS8lZhpuVS6c8qAaMebqRVH.gif) I like the fact that NACHI members will be credited for being more educated than the average Home Inspector. This qualification will really open the eyes of many prospects that are seeking for the "best" Home Inspector on the market. NACHI...always improving. * * * -- David Valley MAB Member Massachusetts Certified Home Inspections [http://www.masscertified.com](http://www.masscertified.com) "Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go." ---
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**Originally Posted By: jhagarty** **This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.** * * * ![icon_exclaim.gif](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/original/3X/9/2/92be1f3074a786092d1b9512520be3e7cb6dad50.gif) * * * – Joseph Hagarty HouseMaster / Main Line, PA [joseph.hagarty@housemaster.com](mailto:joseph.hagarty@housemaster.com) [www.householdinspector.com](http://www.householdinspector.com) Phone: 610-399-9864 Fax : 610-399-9865 HouseMaster. Home inspections. Done right. ---
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**Originally Posted By: Nick Gromicko** **This post was automatically imported from our archived forum.** * * * Although our new ethics exam is an actual graded exam, its real purpose is to assure us that NACHI members actually read and understand it. [http://www.nachi.org/code\_of\_ethics.htm](http://www.nachi.org/code_of_ethics.htm) I admit I haven’t read it in a while. Also it removes the "ignorance" defense should a violation arise. Nick * * * [Next page](https://forum.nachi.org/t/nachi-to-toughen-requirements-for-2004/172143.md?page=2)