# Need some education on this panel **URL:** \ **Category:** Electrical Inspections\ **Created:** [February 1, 2016, 1:29am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/need-some-education-on-this-panel/103529 "2016-02-01T01:29:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![mmarinos](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/mmarinos/32/89238_2.png) [@mmarinos](https://forum.nachi.org/u/mmarinos)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2016, 1:29am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/need-some-education-on-this-panel/103529/1 "2016-02-01T01:29:22Z")
![IMG_1398.jpg](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/original/3X/d/6/d67144b96ae393e428384a45cbe4eb9e2a5954cd.jpeg) Sorry the pic is sideways. I can not figure out why that happened. Anyway I am stumped. I cant figure out why there are 2 70 amp breakers connected to each other. I have seen my share of split bus panels but this does not look like anything I have ever seen before. The bus bars look like they are one piece. From what I can see the SEC feeds both sides of the panel. Why the 70 amp double pole breakers? Manny ---
**Author:** ![cevans](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/cevans/32/244194_2.png) [@cevans](https://forum.nachi.org/u/cevans)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2016, 1:49am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/need-some-education-on-this-panel/103529/2 "2016-02-01T01:49:04Z")
They wired it like a split bus, but it doesn’t appear to be one. ---
**Author:** ![mmarinos](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/mmarinos/32/89238_2.png) [@mmarinos](https://forum.nachi.org/u/mmarinos)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2016, 1:50am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/need-some-education-on-this-panel/103529/3 "2016-02-01T01:50:49Z")
Lol yeah thats what I think as well. I know it has many other issues as well like no main shut off and extensive corrosion. ---
**Author:** ![mmarinos](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/mmarinos/32/89238_2.png) [@mmarinos](https://forum.nachi.org/u/mmarinos)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2016, 1:57am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/need-some-education-on-this-panel/103529/4 "2016-02-01T01:57:09Z")
I am not sure what the best way to write this up is. Any advise? ---
**Author:** ![rcooke](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/rcooke/32/57038_2.png) [@rcooke](https://forum.nachi.org/u/rcooke)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2016, 1:57am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/need-some-education-on-this-panel/103529/5 "2016-02-01T01:57:18Z")
Picture turned ![119985d1454289724-need-some-education-panel-img.jpg](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/original/3X/1/9/1908df2778d3c05c657c0ed3bb1e370ef4bdef0f.jpeg) ![119985d1454289724-need-some-education-panel-img.jpg](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/original/3X/1/9/1908df2778d3c05c657c0ed3bb1e370ef4bdef0f.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![rmeier2](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/rmeier2/32/59909_2.png) [@rmeier2](https://forum.nachi.org/u/rmeier2)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2016, 2:03am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/need-some-education-on-this-panel/103529/6 "2016-02-01T02:03:04Z")
It does look like it’s supposed to be a split bus panel. ---
**Author:** ![mmarinos](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/mmarinos/32/89238_2.png) [@mmarinos](https://forum.nachi.org/u/mmarinos)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2016, 2:05am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/need-some-education-on-this-panel/103529/7 "2016-02-01T02:05:20Z")
Thanks Roy! Robert I understand what you are saying however I do not see were the bus is split? ---
**Author:** ![rmeier2](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/rmeier2/32/59909_2.png) [@rmeier2](https://forum.nachi.org/u/rmeier2)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2016, 2:06am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/need-some-education-on-this-panel/103529/8 "2016-02-01T02:06:53Z")
> [@mmarinos](#): > > Thanks Roy! Robert I understand what you are saying however I do not see were the bus is split? Sorry I edited my post after I noticed that Roy had fixed the sideways photo. You cannot tell what it is unless you remove some of the circuit breakers to see the bus configuration. A split bus would have three 2-pole slots on each side. ---
**Author:** ![mgoldenberg](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/mgoldenberg/32/89265_2.png) [@mgoldenberg](https://forum.nachi.org/u/mgoldenberg)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2016, 2:21am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/need-some-education-on-this-panel/103529/9 "2016-02-01T02:21:50Z")
Aluminum wiring ---
**Author:** ![mmarinos](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/mmarinos/32/89238_2.png) [@mmarinos](https://forum.nachi.org/u/mmarinos)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2016, 2:35am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/need-some-education-on-this-panel/103529/10 "2016-02-01T02:35:23Z")
> [@mgoldenberg](#): > > Aluminum wiring Correct me if I am wrong however I only see stranded aluminum wiring. ---
**Author:** ![cevans](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/cevans/32/244194_2.png) [@cevans](https://forum.nachi.org/u/cevans)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2016, 2:41am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/need-some-education-on-this-panel/103529/11 "2016-02-01T02:41:29Z")
> [@Robert\_Meier](#): > > Sorry I edited my post after I noticed that Roy had fixed the sideways photo. You cannot tell what it is unless you remove some of the circuit breakers to see the bus configuration. A split bus would have three 2-pole slots on each side. If it were a split bus, the lower 70A breaker would still be on the upper bus.The bus appears to be continuous between the two 70s. ---
**Author:** ![cevans](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/cevans/32/244194_2.png) [@cevans](https://forum.nachi.org/u/cevans)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2016, 2:44am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/need-some-education-on-this-panel/103529/12 "2016-02-01T02:44:38Z")
> [@mmarinos](#): > > I am not sure what the best way to write this up is. Any advise? I would characterize it it as atypical and then describe what I see. This is one of those instances where I would recommend further evaluation by a… I would also document any other observed defects. ---
**Author:** ![mmarinos](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/mmarinos/32/89238_2.png) [@mmarinos](https://forum.nachi.org/u/mmarinos)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2016, 2:45am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/need-some-education-on-this-panel/103529/13 "2016-02-01T02:45:14Z")
Thank Chuck I agree it does not look right. ---
**Author:** ![rmeier2](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/rmeier2/32/59909_2.png) [@rmeier2](https://forum.nachi.org/u/rmeier2)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2016, 9:39am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/need-some-education-on-this-panel/103529/14 "2016-02-01T09:39:36Z")
Do you have a photo of the label on the inside of the cover? ---
**Author:** ![mmarinos](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/mmarinos/32/89238_2.png) [@mmarinos](https://forum.nachi.org/u/mmarinos)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2016, 9:22pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/need-some-education-on-this-panel/103529/15 "2016-02-01T21:22:03Z")
Robert the spec label was missing. All that was there was a small label with the brand which was Bryant. ---
**Author:** ![rmeier2](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/rmeier2/32/59909_2.png) [@rmeier2](https://forum.nachi.org/u/rmeier2)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2016, 10:35pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/need-some-education-on-this-panel/103529/16 "2016-02-01T22:35:32Z")
Very strange setup. The two conductors from the top 70 amp CB are size #2 on the left and #4 on the right as they travel down next to the bus and behind the CB’s. When they emerge at the bottom the #4 is now on the left and the #2 is now on the right. I would love to see this with all of the CB’s removed. ---
**Author:** ![mgoldenberg](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/mgoldenberg/32/89265_2.png) [@mgoldenberg](https://forum.nachi.org/u/mgoldenberg)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2016, 1:03am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/need-some-education-on-this-panel/103529/17 "2016-02-02T01:03:24Z")
> [@mmarinos](#): > > Correct me if I am wrong however I only see stranded aluminum wiring. Whoops sorry. I thought it looked like single until I just blew it up. ---
**Author:** ![mmarinos](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/mmarinos/32/89238_2.png) [@mmarinos](https://forum.nachi.org/u/mmarinos)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2016, 4:49am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/need-some-education-on-this-panel/103529/18 "2016-02-02T04:49:34Z")
> [@mgoldenberg](#): > > Whoops sorry. > I thought it looked like single until I just blew it up. 🙂 All good thanks anyway.