# New builder window installed **URL:** \ **Category:** General Inspection Topics\ **Created:** [December 17, 2024, 1:28am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/new-builder-window-installed/250500 "2024-12-17T01:28:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![am4](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/am4/32/251811_2.png) [@am4](https://forum.nachi.org/u/am4)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2024, 1:28am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/new-builder-window-installed/250500/1 "2024-12-17T01:28:49Z")
I know this is not correct, but I need the words that how to explain what is incorrect here. This builder put the windows like this through out the house. and I think its missing the outer trim. Can someone please help me to identify the problem on this window install? ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/original/4X/c/e/6/ce626398178957967c87c44463d86a93a1e8818e.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![am4](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/am4/32/251811_2.png) [@am4](https://forum.nachi.org/u/am4)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2024, 1:30am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/new-builder-window-installed/250500/2 "2024-12-17T01:30:27Z")
![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/original/4X/d/2/c/d2c751f9a3902a2c181575cb14acd8d1cfbedd4c.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![sfetty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/sfetty/32/331195_2.png) [@sfetty](https://forum.nachi.org/u/sfetty)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2024, 1:45am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/new-builder-window-installed/250500/3 "2024-12-17T01:45:14Z")
AHHH, the builders all time favorite excuse “it passed Code, everything is fine”. It’s not okay, (other than an honest builder Rep/supervisor to oversee/correct issues or even better make sure it is installed right the first time) you need the siding and/or window manufacturer installation instructions as your definitive source. In Florida installation instructions should be available on site. ---
**Author:** ![jspencer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/jspencer/32/172267_2.png) [@jspencer](https://forum.nachi.org/u/jspencer)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2024, 1:53am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/new-builder-window-installed/250500/4 "2024-12-17T01:53:51Z")
From here it looks like a standard builder’s grade vinyl window with nail fin and built in j-channel ---
**Author:** ![kleonard](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/kleonard/32/170953_2.png) [@kleonard](https://forum.nachi.org/u/kleonard)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2024, 2:12am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/new-builder-window-installed/250500/5 "2024-12-17T02:12:29Z")
Window was not properly flashed. Have a qualified contractor make corrections as needed. ---
**Author:** ![am4](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/am4/32/251811_2.png) [@am4](https://forum.nachi.org/u/am4)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2024, 2:47am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/new-builder-window-installed/250500/6 "2024-12-17T02:47:30Z")
Thank you Kevin, appreciate your help. ---
**Author:** ![bcawhern1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/bcawhern1/32/408713_2.png) [@bcawhern1](https://forum.nachi.org/u/bcawhern1)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2024, 12:17pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/new-builder-window-installed/250500/7 "2024-12-17T12:17:31Z")
It appears to be a standard install, provided this is a fin window. Both the siding manufacturer and the window manufacturer would give guidance here. I think you may have showed up late to your own party. ---
**Author:** ![gneff](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/gneff/32/59427_2.png) [@gneff](https://forum.nachi.org/u/gneff)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2024, 1:29pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/new-builder-window-installed/250500/8 "2024-12-17T13:29:20Z")
I am curious. I’m not questioning your opinion, but how can you tell that window is not flashed? Looks like it is taped in that second pic. ---
**Author:** ![am4](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/am4/32/251811_2.png) [@am4](https://forum.nachi.org/u/am4)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2024, 1:44pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/new-builder-window-installed/250500/9 "2024-12-17T13:44:27Z")
I am expecting the window to look like this one. What is that trim called? is that not they supposed to have it on all the windows in the house? This at least prevent the water and bugs to get behind the vinyl ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/original/4X/1/1/2/112a4a0b6027ddd8db2b28b969e208a4f6426a62.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![mcyr](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/mcyr/32/173319_2.png) [@mcyr](https://forum.nachi.org/u/mcyr)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2024, 1:45pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/new-builder-window-installed/250500/10 "2024-12-17T13:45:07Z")
Looks like an integral j window trim to me. You can see the flashing behind it. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/original/4X/f/0/0/f00aae66f9ed7a59b11797b1847cc91e75302818.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![mcyr](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/mcyr/32/173319_2.png) [@mcyr](https://forum.nachi.org/u/mcyr)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2024, 1:57pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/new-builder-window-installed/250500/11 "2024-12-17T13:57:10Z")
> [@am4](#): > > I am expecting the window to look like this one. What is that trim called? > is that not they supposed to have it on all the windows in the house? > > This at least prevent the water and bugs to get behind the vinyl That is just a different type of window jamb detail and still has a j-molding. If the siding is left with a gap for expansion, like they should, your bugs will still go behind it. When I see vinyl siding like your first picture that is concave like that, it means to me that it is a cheap siding and will make it look worse inside a J-mold like that. ---
**Author:** ![bhull1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/bhull1/32/180000_2.png) [@bhull1](https://forum.nachi.org/u/bhull1)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2024, 3:09pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/new-builder-window-installed/250500/12 "2024-12-17T15:09:16Z")
> [@jspencer](#): > > From here it looks like a standard builder’s grade vinyl window with nail fin and built in j-channel I agree. It looks like a standard vinyl window with built-in J-Chanel to me as well. I’m not seeing a defect in Asim’s picture. [![](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/original/4X/c/5/1/c5193f1e9a115281b5a5702be9cd86c93727f42d.jpeg "HOW TO | J-Channel a Window (Perfectly Every Time)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbJ7ejTWkq8) the window frame has a one inch deep flange around the perimeter. it is flashed to the wall and then the vinyl siding edges tuck into the flange (J chanel) to hide the edges of the vinyl siding. ![IMG_7576](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/original/4X/0/1/5/0156974f3f9d76b83cae99065180c0b46880a74c.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![mcyr](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/mcyr/32/173319_2.png) [@mcyr](https://forum.nachi.org/u/mcyr)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2024, 4:24pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/new-builder-window-installed/250500/13 "2024-12-17T16:24:12Z")
Dutch vinyl double 5 lap siding. That is what I have on the house. ---
**Author:** ![jmckee](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/jmckee/32/211009_2.png) [@jmckee](https://forum.nachi.org/u/jmckee)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2024, 4:34pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/new-builder-window-installed/250500/14 "2024-12-17T16:34:19Z")
It’s fine… ---
**Author:** ![bcawhern1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/bcawhern1/32/408713_2.png) [@bcawhern1](https://forum.nachi.org/u/bcawhern1)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2024, 5:21pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/new-builder-window-installed/250500/15 "2024-12-17T17:21:28Z")
The window in your new home has a built-in J-channel. The window you compared it to is an entirely different type of window. The same concern you have here… ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/original/4X/d/8/2/d8292e3b45a0159cc6fa017a3f9e61b8746ef501.jpeg) exists here…the only difference is the viewing angle. ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/original/4X/a/c/4/ac458bd4fba8d403a4ba3abb27856d59f47e49e5.jpeg) Also, be aware that vinyl siding is not waterproof. Water will get behind it. ---
**Author:** ![mcyr](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/mcyr/32/173319_2.png) [@mcyr](https://forum.nachi.org/u/mcyr)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2024, 6:06pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/new-builder-window-installed/250500/16 "2024-12-17T18:06:03Z")
> [@bcawhern1](#): > > Also, be aware that vinyl siding is not waterproof. Water will get behind it. And that picture does just that. Hope there is flashing and a good WRB. ---
**Author:** ![ddagostino](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/ddagostino/32/60136_2.png) [@ddagostino](https://forum.nachi.org/u/ddagostino)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2024, 8:33pm UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/new-builder-window-installed/250500/17 "2024-12-17T20:33:14Z")
> [@bcawhern1](#): > > vinyl siding is not waterproof. Water will get behind it. Say it ain’t so!! 😉