New Kansas Bill submitted by Trial Atty's & KAR

Dan,

My address is [email protected] .

Anybody notice how dead the Kansas site is. Makes you wonder how many guys have computers in Kansas.

Anything to update, Dan?

I went to the hearing on Friday. There was the lobbyist from KAR (Kansas Association of Realtors (Luke Bell) and 5 ASHI home inspectors to speak in favor of the Bill from KAREI (Kansas Association of Real Estate Inspectors). There were 4 ASHI, NAHI & NACHI Home Inspectors to speak against the Bill from KARCI (Kansas Association of Residential & Commercial Inspectors).

The Trial Attorneys Rep spoke for the Bill. The Engineering Boards Lobbyist and a Home Inspector / Engineer were there to ask that engineers not be required to be conform to the Bill’s Rules (in Kansas the state laws exclude one & two family houses from the state engineering laws - so they did not want to have to report to a HI Board, etc since they obviously have more training and knowledge than a HI ever could ???).

Due to time constraints the proponents were give 3/4 of the time allocated to hear the Bill (about 1.5 hours). That meant that only about 6 people and the engineer got to talk.

Never met the engineer from Topeka before, but when him and his wife (also a PE) got into the HI profession about 2-3 years ago they hired one of my trainers (a HI instructor) to train them on weekends.

What’s next? Nick will still write each legislator if you want him to.

Do it. The way the law is written, if it went through as is the HI Board has total control of all rules, etc. That could get real 1-sided seeing how its been developed and by whom. Bet money if it went through as written a small group of select inspectors would shortly change the rules THEIR WAY.

Mine is [email protected]

Thank you.

Have Kansas adopt the Illinois law :mrgreen:

Hope this helps.

No, unlike some I stick to my own state, I don’t try to spread my libertarian Bullsh*t around like a religion, I stick to my business, remember Your Stuff, My Stuff dumb a$$?

You might check on how I read the Law here too, you cannot inspect a home and mention WDO without a license, that’s just exaclty what the argument has been about, the Sub thing is something that every licensed inspector has been told by the WSDA for the past few years, kind of like your Hero Bush telling lies to Congress about WMD’s and Nuclear Threats, and then congress voting based on those lies, I was wrong just like them.

Your and yur troop of goons should run for office somewhere, U.S. Politics needs perfect a$$holes like you.

Are you on the ESOP Committee JOe? You’d fit right in.

Fight it as best you can. This business is going down the toilet.

Well, Lewis, at the advice of the many - I too add you and your irrelevant rantings to my ignore list. You are getting boring…but by all means, continue to show those who oppose licensing in your state why they should, with your many posts.

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Very bad legislation.

If I were a home inspector in Kansas I would do free inspections and sell other services. (Don’t kick my *** Nick). It is one of the few ways someone might be able to stay in business.

Other tactics reduce liability but will not eliminate it.

1 - Always refer another specialist. Find “something” wrong. All homes are PoS (Poor or Substandard).

2 - Use report writing software like Mr. Swift or others sell.

3 - Never inspect for absentee buyer.

3.1 - In your contract ask if buyer has ever sued an inspector. IF they answer yes get real sick and leave. (If you leave for any other reason they can sue you for breach of implied contract)

3.2 - Ask if they are a trial attorney. If they say yes get real sick again and leave.

4 - Copious photos and video

4.1 No reports done on site. Take time to review your work.

5 - Create your own sellers disclosure that shreds the real estate industry document and give it to the buyer with instruction to the have seller fill it out.

6 - Always recommend a paid reinspection if the home is occupied. Send a email mail reminder. Explain there are conditions to be reported you could not see.

7 - Recommend more specialty inspections than you can think of. Lead, asbestos, water quality, infrared, WDI or WDO, hydrostatic and camera test of sewage; supply pipe wall thickness check; ohm test of ground; blower door test; carbon monoxide, radon, mold, indoor air quality, soil samples and on and on and on. Do not suggest it. Tell them it must be done before closing.

I know this sounds absurd the business is headed that way.

Now the ugly alternative

Become a manager. Never inspect again. Hire a newbie with insurance. Become a preferred provider. Own your trademark and name. Lease it to the business. Open and close businesses like popcorn; hire dozens of disposable inspectors; sell other services and products.

How to control the ugly alternative? Make it take an associate degree to get a license for starters. That reduces the number of inspectors and allows fees to go to 2,000 to 3,000 range. Thats what it takes to do an inspection with no liability limit.

Lastly, stay a member of NACHI and move to another state.

IHHI

If they really wanta go there, I can give an agent a degree of protection they’ve only had bad nighmares about before.

If we had unlimited liability:

“Mr. Buyer I see there are hairline cracks in the driveway. I feel that soil boring and testing by a licensed Geological Engineer is needed”.

“By the way there is an old and dry looking stain on the ceiling, so we’re going to recommend removing the drywall to examine the framing inside the wall cavities for damage AND do a mandatory mold testing”.

“The right rear range burner did not glow as bright as the other burners. We need to have a licensed appliance technician check this out by doing voltage, amp draws, and ohm testing, etc”.

AND so it goes …

LOL!:cool:

Can you say meltdown? LOL!:twisted: :roll:

Lewis,

Have you succumbed to the dreaded career-stopping malady known as posting while drinking? I think my (as you say) troop of goons might need to look into the liquor licensing laws of Washington state there appears to be some obvious abuse that will require some further restrictions, for your own good… of course. :wink:

Catch up with me when you have loosed yourself from that contagion demon-rum, then we can discuss the matter further. :mrgreen:

I think he hasn’t stopped drinking since Dr.Suomi’s letter. Gonna be one helluva hangover. :wink:

I knew he was drunk when he suggested that I join the ESOP committee, can you imagine? :smiley:

How did George Bush get pulled into this? LOL. The liberals have blamed him for everything under the sun including global warming, hurricanes (he must be directing them from the oval office) and the Lindberg kidnapping.

Lewis was just sharing his angst with all of us co-conspirators at being so soundly spanked on the Washington SPI and other licensing threads. He is not such a bad guy, and as long as he comes to grips with the fact that losing is an illusion which makes you wiser than finding a truth, he will be OK.