Ben,
Stop the bull****, please.
NY DOH will NOT list a member on its website, with or without the association’s training.
You’re into getting letters. Post their acceptance letter here.
Incorrect.
John Hearn http://expertbuildinginspection.com/ is listed as a NY Certified Radon Tester on NY’s website (http://www.health.ny.gov/environmental/radiological/radon/certified_radon_testers/alba_radontesters.htm), and he’s a member of InterNACHI.
Some men you just can’t reach.
He is also a member of the NRSB or AARST. Either that or he would not be listed. Call them. They will affirm what I have said. By the way, he is also a NY State ELAP Certified LAboratory, which means he was certified as a lab and has the qualifications as established by AARST and/or NRSB and NY State DOH.
Why are the both of you afraid of the truth? Why wont either of you lobby to have the NY State DOH rules changed They are arbitrary and discriminitory against our qualified and trained members?
I tried and failed. NACHI has the resources.
Again. Call them and get a reference if I am wrong. Either that or I will contact them, get a written response, and post it here.
Being a member of NACHI is an ancillary membership to the two memberships that the DOH recognize as requirement for them to consider one “certified” in the radon testing field on their website.
I don’t believe individuals are “members” of NRPP. NRPP offers a certification (2-year). AARST does indeed offer membership.
Ben,
Call the DOH. They can explain it to you. For a NACHI member to be listed on that site, just your training and a NACHI or IAC2 membership will not suffice.
I think our training is great, but you and Nick just refuse to get it. The state does NOT have a radon licensing requirement or training requirement as a matter of law whatsoever. Yet, the DOH has taken it upon itself, as THE state agency in charge of the radon program, to provide a list of “certified” radon testers to the general public. They have a requirement which is listed on the website itself. That requirement is specific to AARST and/or NRSB. No NACHI and no IAC2
You have stated that our members can be listed there if they take our training. I am saying that it SHOULD be that way, but it is NOT as you have represented it to be. They will REFUSE to list anyone that does not meet THEIR criteria, even though the LAW has no such criteria.
This is just wrong, and as the worlds largest inspection association, what are you and Nick willing to do about it?
Its the very same here in in Wisconsin.
That’s because they are abiding by a certification standard that prohibits the certifying body from providing the approved course (which they view as a conflict of interest). To comply with that certifying standard (that the radon industry has adopted), we can do one or the other. We do. We provide the approved radon course.
I am currently an ELAP certified Lab and Radon Mitigation Contractor for NYS. The key is the NRSB or NRPP Test that has to be taken not the classes or training. Furthermore you don’t need to join the NRSB or NRPP. You do however need to sit through the training to sit for the test.
To be a NYS Certified Mitigation Contractor you do have to do the classroom training to be eligible to sit for the test also.
I also had to Join the NRPP to be listed on the NYS website.
However you can do Radon Mitigation’s as a contractor without a license in NYS but you must report on them every 6 months. This is not true in PA.
Every Tom Dick and Harry does charcoal testing in NYS without a license but NYS is working on get everyone to be voluntarily licensed.
The paperwork involved in being a certified lab is not really worth the benefit of being licensed.
Rick,
I took the NRSB training and passed the Radon Specialist national exam. But, because I am not a member of NRSB, I cannot be listed on the site.
I believe this to be unfair, but all this association wants to do is blow smoke up its NY Members asses and tell them something that is not accurate, or spin it in a manner which seems accurate but is not.
That is the problem I am having.
They can spin it however they want. They act like paper tigers. On one breath we say we are the best. On the next breath we look like carnival barkers.
Bottom line is that all of our training will NOT get you listed on the State’s own site, nor wiill the folks running the radon program call you a certified tester
I will ask once again… what is THIS organization willing to do about this injustice to its NY Members?
I have repeatedly asked Ben (and/or Nick) to contact the NY State DOH directly and ask the question. Then post the reply on this website. I already have and know the answer, but they represent that what I have said is not correct.
The silence is deafening.
Rick confirms:
And now thanks to InterNACHI, the seat you are sitting on to complete that approved training can be your living room couch.
I don’t know what NYS’s requirements are to be listed on their site, so on that issue, Joe could very well be correct. I can’t find anything on their website about it.
Nick…
Go the next step.
If NY State Dept of State approved the Radon course…
And NY State has NO LICENSING requirement for Radon testing…
Then HOW can the NY State DOH decide who is a “certified” Radon tester?
Fair is fair.
The IAC2 course is as good, if not better, than the NRSB course
The IAC2 test is just as hard as the NRSB test.
Level the field.
I believe there is legal standing to do so.
If folks that take and pass the course cannot be recognized as “certified”, no one should.
NACHI has attorneys
A Depoartment within the State of NY has made a decision where there is no legal justification to do so.
The course is approved by the NY State DOS.
It should automatically be accepted by the DOH, as there is no actual qualification as defined by law within the State of NY.
Anything new on NYS? Still have to pass one of the 2 national exams just to be a tester? Lot of work just to plop a tester in a house and pick it up and hit transmit…