OAHI / CAHPI Ontario AGM

Gee claude please look at this post
(" http://www.nachi.org/forum/f48/oahi-cahpi-ontario-agm-37815/ ")
it was a NACHI member that started this string .
He also started many strings on the NCA when he was a NACHI member .
Strange how you said nothing then, it looks to like it was too your advantage then .
Time does change things .
I see you also choose to ignore posts made by NCA members pushing the NCA on the NACHI ,CANNACHI and Raymonds site.
This is our home and I see no reason why we the NACHI members should not post what we want.
the NCA/PHPIC seems to like to use amny other forums to try and convince all how great they are and how they should be listened too.
What makes the NCA members think they should control the NACHI forum and try to convince the NCA is better then all.
I think it was You Claude who closed down the Ont CAHPI forum because it had a few post’s you did not like .
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"In more words - things have changed, and to state that something is true, when it is not - is called - at best misinformation."

Considering the source that is one of the funnier statements seen here in a long time. Good way to end out a dull gray month. :D:D

Perplexed Brian asks:

Not unusual. Why would we single out this message board? Nearly everything we offer is free:

Perplexed Brian asks:

Not unusual. Why would we single out this message board? Nearly everything we offer is free:

I don’t really follow what other associations do. Do they charge?

To the newbies:

90% of you will not be in business in 2-3 years…Nick doesn’t care…he gave you the opportunity…you failed, not he!! Too bad; so sad…but hey, thanks for the help keeping the business going (even while you were failing!) by paying membership and other fees…and purchasing from the vendors (God bless them!!)

This place… A merry-go-round where you may get a couple of rides before you have to jump off…and you essentially help the older established longterm members with “donations” during your fleeting time here…this helps keep the fee down though…They thank you also!!!

Brian, what you say isn’t all true, but it isn’t all false either… there is some truth to it.

I would think alot more newbies succeed because of NACHI than fail, I think also that because there is not a huge startup cost and generally it’s a part time business to start, home inspection is not taken seriously by some and destined to fail if not treated as a real business. I also believe that if you give up in as soon as 2 years, you didn’t listen, it takes 3-5 to really get established and how many seasoned inspectors have said that?

I agree Charles ,
NACHI is not like a lot of others who sell High cost programs and memberships to people before they even know if this is the correct business for them .
At least at NACHI with low cost they can read ask questions and learn while still maintaining their usual income .
Then after a period of time they have a least increased their knowledge on many things .
If they decide to not continue they have seen and heard much information ,that could be put to use later in life .

I was in business for five years before I found InterNACHI. Because of the great resourses here I increased my business. I approched the other assoc ten years ago and they demanded a whole lot of money and refused to look at or consider my previous education and experience. In fact they told me that I did not know how to do inspections unless they trained me. After 28 years of being an inspector! Give me a break! They just wanted my money. Well they are not going to get it. Not one GD cent.

If they did not own it how could they shut if down? -X

The current leaders of CAHPI National incorrectly thought that CAHPI owned the program. Had they consulted someone who was around years ago when the program was developed, they would have learned that actual ownership had to be retained by certain government agencies, and CAHPI was merely given the right to administer the program.

So in actuality, all CAHPI could do was try to shut down the parts of the program they were administering. However,they could not cancel the program because it was not theirs to cancel, so all they were able to do was needlessly inconvenience hundreds of people.

The real ‘owners’ of the program quickly authorized the NHICC to revive and and administer the program, and that’s where we are today. The program now has a totally independent (no association has influence or control) certifying body (NHICC) administering it and making it equally available to all Canadian Home Insepctors.

Bill Mullen

Come on, Vern…At the time, they were the only group with an agreement to run a program that tested and certified for the NCH!!

Claude you posted the following on another thread last July.
Sure “significant restructuring” is similar to “right sizing the government”. It’s all whitewash, and warm and fuzzy feel good terms - to make the National Certificate Holder feel irrelevant.

CAHPI feels they own it! So they can use it and pass it on to the provincial CAHPI chapters, to protect the RHI designation.

CAHPI may own it, but it also was under specific terms of agreement. It’s not dead yet!
Sure “significant restructuring” is similar to “right sizing the government”. It’s all whitewash, and warm and fuzzy feel good terms - to make the National Certificate Holder feel irrelevant.

CAHPI may own it, but it also was under specific terms of agreement. It’s not dead yet!

Claude the above statements in blue seem to be in conflict. Care to explain?
Who does own it?

"I approched the other assoc ten years ago and they demanded a whole lot of money and refused to look at or consider my previous education and experience."

For the record Vern, what was that other organization?

It was called cahi at that time.
I prefer not to use their name as that gives them free advertizing.

I would think alot more newbies succeed because of NACHI than fail, I think also that because there is not a huge startup cost and generally it’s a part time business to start, home inspection is not taken seriously by some and destined to fail if not treated as a real business. I also believe that if you give up in as soon as 2 years, you didn’t listen, it takes 3-5 to really get established and how many seasoned inspectors have said that?

Words worth repeating. Thanks Chuck.

NACHI was the first H.I. organization I joined and the assistance I received was invaluable. I am still and will remain a member of this association. We at the ALLIANCE of CANADIAN HOME INSPECTORS are attempting to give our members the same kind of quality service. ( now all we need is 9000 members !!:smiley: :smiley: )

JOIN US AT;

http://www.theachi.org

Yes Bill Mullen noted it exactly in his post today.

"The current leaders of CAHPI National incorrectly thought that CAHPI owned the program. Had they consulted someone who was around years ago when the program was developed, they would have learned that actual ownership had to be retained by certain government agencies, and CAHPI was merely given the right to administer the program.

So in actuality, all CAHPI could do was try to shut down the parts of the program they were administering. However,they could not cancel the program because it was not theirs to cancel, so all they were able to do was needlessly inconvenience hundreds of people.

The real ‘owners’ of the program quickly authorized the NHICC to revive and and administer the program, and that’s where we are today. The program now has a totally independent (no association has influence or control) certifying body (NHICC) administering it and making it equally available to all Canadian Home Insepctors."

Claude, please don’t put answers in such plain English…it’s too easy to understandand; there’s no mystery left to comment on or question such as THE BIG THREE! At this rate, these boards will be unexciting and business will actualy move forward…PITY!

Vern , If all the others were like Nachi we would not be having this kind of post or conversation !

NACHI,
Great place ,Number one all the way… Roy