That I do understand, but the larger issue is the same old points of people trying to get to the GF point by getting into price wars, the new person trying to get into the industry 2 years from now that comes out of a diploma mill - insurance going up - and requiring a statement of # of inspections or years in profession.
I wonder what the long term changes this will have on the Florida Profession such as less client problems??
Jay have you had any thoughts of logic - for or against sent to you?
I got my comments in the analysis for tomorrow’s hearing, excerpts:
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[FONT=Arial]Thanks Nick. Your comments are in the analysis. [/FONT]
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[FONT=Arial]*We are hearing the home inspectors bill in committee on Tues at 9:30 am. You are welcome to come. Do you have any info about my question? We have to prepare analysis before the committee meeting. *[/FONT]
Does anyone know how this would effect Charlotte county ? If they will just require a state license and get rid of their county requirements then I wouldn’t have to retake the NHIE. I already passed it but not with a 560 or 555 or whatever they require. I’m getting ready to retake it now but I won’t need to if Charlotte county won’t require a seperate license after this bill passes.
I just got a phone call from the leg aid for my rep and he thinks the bill is dead
We will see – It is not over until the fat lady sings - I hate it when people let words out like this as “opinions or thoughts” It give the other side time to call in the back up forces
That just doesn’t add up when we have this reality…
*On April 24, ****HB 161, ***which also would regulate mold assessment and remediation, was placed on the House Calendar. The bill can now be scheduled and considered by the full House on any day that the House is in session…
*On April 25, the Senate Regulated Industries Committee voted to replace ****SB 2670 ****with a Committee Substitute by a vote of 10 to 0. SB 2670 is now very similar to the amended HB 161 and included regulation of mold assessment and remediation. The amended SB 2670 now will be referred to either the Senate Criminal Justice Committee or the Senate Judiciary Committee for review. *
I would be very impressed if this thing were dead indeed.
I do not know all the procedural actions that a bill must go through – High school state government is too many years back, but I think it has something to do with how many times a bill is read or presented to the house (don’t know about the senate)
In any case it looks like there might not be enough bandwidth left to get it through – just a scheduling problem
That is why I ask the question as to has it been presented for its first reading etc.
I see nothing stopping it now, remember there are powerful connected people who have devoted a great deal of time, effort & money to see this bill become law, as always money talks and bullsh!t walks… Always has, always will.
***The Governor stated that the bill was somewhat ambiguous and lacked clear guidance to the industry in some areas including, a lack of clear educational and examination requirements. While the bill required training, the Governor stated that there were no specifics regarding the kind of curriculum and/or standards necessary for home inspectors, mold assessors, or mold ***remediators. The Governor further stated that the bill appears to arbitrarily require high school and college degrees while presenting no clear reasons for the requirements.
It does not appear to have changed in this year’s version.
HB 161 has been placed on the special order calendar for the HOUSE. The Senate version has two more committees to go through and the committees no longer meet. It will be up to the Chair of the Committee to put it through.
Very interesting, do you have any idea if it is common practice for the Chair of the Committee to regularly go the extra mile to get bills like this through?
From what I read & hear from other inspectors throughout the profession is, there is a fair amount of ambivalence in regards to this bill, the profession as it were is not the driving force in this year’s bill; it is being pushed along primarily by those outside our profession.
The problem is that is not a very good bill for anyone in particular and if passed will not negatively effect too many inspectors either, we would probably be better off without it but quite frankly I don’t really give a damn and am far too busy with other projects.
You and I do not agree on a lot of things but we are on the same page on this one
The problem that I see is people trying to qualify at the last second and doing $50 inspections.
I (and my boss) have taken the time to say it is a bad bill through our rep and a few others.
Time will tell
– Good to here that you have a plate load of projects. I am thinking of a gas recovery project – problem I can only do it at night and my electric pump makes so much noise.
Well, kinda. I would be in favor of this bill if it were truly licensing which included;
a clear plan for consumer protection
minimum education & experience requirements
enforceability
You know the things that would advance our current status into one that more resembles a true profession. Here in Florida we license hairdressers who’s screw ups grow back in 4 weeks, isn’t what we do far more deserving of regulation?
I will bring you on to my way of thinking but not to nite
A little to think on - When the gov regulates an industry your end up with a bad hair cut. They regulate driving a car – and I still were a seat belt – they regulate my doctor and I still ask for a second opinion - they regulate a lot of professions including my barber and he has not seen a government person other than to cut his hair in 40 plus years. He cuts one stile - “North Frostproof” (his name is MR NORTH)
Market place regulation is dam good and with technology moving faster than the gov can keep up I would like them to stay out of my a$$
Can you see the schools teaching and the gov testing getting into: IR camera - True Voltage Drop testing - Home cat 5-6 inspections - hard wired fire alarm (smoke) inspections - NOT MOLD but air quality - and the list goes on
In short as our houses get better and the equipment that we can afford gets better we will be able to give our clients a better inspection – The days of a checklist and a flashlight are over.
Government regulation with a license with people out in the field enforcing the technical aspects of our profession is good on paper but the gov is too slow at this time to react to a changing profession. Schools can’t even do it. Every month new toys and inspection procedures come out to help our industry
Yes, the good old boys will still be able to make a living for a while with a flashlight but when some one asks “how much damage have the bugs done to my wall” the portable ultra sound ir camera computer assisted stud finder comes out and gives a picture. The government and insurance companies do not even know that the product is on the market
Educating and testing for the basics does not cut it. Market place regulation is were it is now and where it will stay
Not bad it has allowed you and I to get where we are today and I am sure that you are taking care of your clients just fine without the gov up your a$$ I am also sure that if a good bill was on the table right now and you were required to re-qualify and start over the client would not be anymore protected than the day you did your first inspection.
As a profession we do not do a bad job. I do not see lawyers on TV trying to get clients to sue HI’s but I do see them trying to get clients to sue Doctors and Hospitals
Need I say more
I will get you on my side of the fence yet but not tonite
