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ESOP’s decision supported by mathematical analysis.

Recently ESOP expelled 2 Canadian members. I was personally opposed to the decisions to have them removed from InterNACHI. One of the 2 is a close personal friend of mine who has helped InterNACHI and me many times for many years. I’d go as far as saying there wouldn’t be an InterNACHI presence in Canada without him. He is a good friend and I love him. But before everyone (including me) starts thinking poorly of ESOP, I wanted to state for the record that the chances of this decision having little to do with the 2 ex-members is almost zero. Clearly the two ex-members played a role in their fate.

For many years, leaders and members of other Canadian associations have sent me email after email after email (hundreds in all) complaining about these very 2 members. I ignored all of them for years, until today. Today I decided to calculate what the odds were of this being pure coincidence.

There are about 3,000 inspectors in Canada of which my inbox for years is packed with complaints from 2 other Canadian associations regarding only 2 inspectors. I won’t go into all their charges and complaints. Anyway, ESOP recently removed the very same 2 inspectors from InterNACHI. InterNACHI almost never expelles anyone,s so the results of our analysis should end up dramatic.

Let’s see what the odds of this being pure coincidence (the ex-members being innocent victims of ESOP and having played no role this situation) are. The odds of one of the 2 members ESOP expelled, also being one of the 2 very other inspectors that the other associations had trouble with, is 1 in 1,500 (there is a 1 in 1500 chance of drawing 1 of 2 inspectors from a pool of 3,000). Then, the odds of the exact other inspector being expelled by ESOP is 1 in 3,000 (there is a 1 in 2,999 chance of drawing 1 inspector from a pool 2,999).

Now here is where it gets interesting. The odds of them expelling those exact 2 members coincidentally (meaning that the ex-members themselves had NO ROLE in any of this and are purely innocent victims of ESOP) is (1 divided by 1,500) times (1 divided by 2,999) or 1 in 4,498,500. Or in other words… impossible.

I waited until after ESOPs decision today to make this post.

One of the 2 ex-members is my dear friend and always will be. I love him. But basic probability and statistics support several of ESOPs contentions. –
Nick Gromicko, CMI
Founder

QUOTE: Nick Gromicko
There are about 3,000 inspectors in Canada of which my inbox for years is packed with complaints from 2 other Canadian associations regarding only 2 inspectors. I won’t go into all their charges and complaints.
[FONT=Book Antiqua]The complaints were for … get ready for a shocker… Code of Ethics Violations!

[/FONT]Anyway, ESOP recently removed the very same 2 inspectors from InterNACHI.
End Quote:

Raymond Wand and Roy Cooke have been and continue to be an EMBARRASSMENT and a DISGRACE to the ENTIRE Canadian Home Inspector’s Industry!

The numerous complaints over the last few years do not lie!

Nick is a smart man… We are ALL glad to see him finally come to his senses!

[eullah (EHSAN ULLAH)]

@rcooke

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Take a careful look at older homes TheStar.com - living - Take a careful look at older homes
Faulty wiring and insufficient insulation common problems

March 22, 2008
Heather Greenwood Davis
Special to The Star
If you’re a first-time home buyer considering the purchase of an older home you’ll want to have some extra money at your disposal before signing on the dotted line.
At the very least, you should be prepared to fork out a few hundred dollars for a home inspection. At the worst, you may need to budget thousands for unexpected upgrades and repairs.
So says Mario Kyriacou, the 2007 recipient of the NACHI (National Association of Certified Home Inspectors) award for Inspector of the Year. The Toronto inspector (360degreeshomeinspections.com) says that while he recommends inspections for newly built homes as well, the potential hazards in an older home make it a necessity.
Kyriacou says he routinely runs into faulty wiring, insufficient insulation and poor renovations when inspecting homes that clients were just about to purchase.
“It makes them aware of the condition,” says Kyriacou. “They can budget for upgrading the services or decide not to purchase that home altogether. My job is to inform my clients to make the correct decision in purchasing their home. They have a budget and they’re burdened if they have to unexpectedly upgrade the furnace.”
And not all of the things he finds are simply financial hazards. Older home builders often used materials that would make any homeowner wary. (Asbestos anyone?)
Here are some of the main culprits that you’ll want to ask about before falling in love with that cute vintage down the street:
1**. Knob and tube wiring **
**How you’ll know: **“Typically a knob-and-tube home would be built in the 1950s or before with 60-amp service. It’s something that you can usually see in the furnace room,” says Kyriacou. But watch out for the “bait and switch” he warns, where the previous homeowner has simply updated what you can see: essentially putting a shiny cover on an old system.
“I recently did a home inspection where it was a 60-amp service but they had installed a new breaker panel in the basement and labelled it as 100 amps,” he says. “All the wiring in the electrical panel was all updated, but when I went into the furnace room and dug around some more I saw that the knob-and-tube circuits were still active.”
**If you take it: **Be prepared to pay. “It’s not enough power for today’s homes,” says Kyriacou who points out that newer homes typically have between 125 and 200 amps.
You may also have trouble getting home insurance: " Most carriers do not want to underwrite a policy with any knob and tube in the home," he says. “A few carriers will carry you if you have less than 5 per cent knob and tube. They’ll underwrite the policy at a premium.”
**2. Aluminum wiring **
**How you’ll know: **“It consists of black fabric covered wiring and is typically found in homes built in the 1970s,” says Kyriacou.
**If you take it: **There’s an increased risk of an electrical fire, particularly in homes where some of the wiring, but not all, has been updated or replaced. “It’s something that most homeowners don’t realize,” he explains. “When they go to Home Depot or Loews to purchase wiring now it’s all copper and they mix and match copper and aluminum. This is not good: Aluminum corrodes when in contact with some other metals and copper is one of them.” Changing the wiring will cost several thousand dollars depending on the size of your home.
**3. Missing insulation in attic **
**How you’ll know: **The house seems drafty and energy bills are high.
**If you take it: **Be prepared to spend the money required to upgrade it so you’re comfortable. Though the missing insulation may not be a building code violation it can add significant amounts to your heating and cooling costs.
**4. Hazardous material **
**How you’ll know: **Chances are you won’t. It will take a trained eye and some tests to be sure, but older homes are more susceptible, says Kyriacou. “In the older days asbestos was used widely in wrapping supply ducts in a home,” he explains. “A lot of the homes used hydronic heating – radiators – and those pipes are wrapped in asbestos wrap and that can be potentially dangerous if disturbed.”
Vermiculate insulation can also be problematic if tampered with. And then there’s the arsenic.
“In older homes in the plaster they used horse hair to bond the plaster together and horse hair was treated with arsenic,” says Kyriacou. “I see this all the time, people taking saws to cut door openings or remove walls entirely in the home without taking precautions to wear respirators or masks.”
**If you take it: **You’ll want to factor in the cost of having professionals handle any renovations you have planned.
“The average homeowner doesn’t know how to handle this stuff and protect the rest of the home from contamination,” says Kyriacou.
**5. Oil-to-gas furnace conversions **
**How you’ll know: **The telltale sign is two holes into the foundation wall of the home or a pipe sticking out of the ground in the backyard. “Often the connecting tubing has been removed but the tank itself is still underground,” says Kyriacou.
**If you take it: **" It can be really costly to remove an oil tank that is leaking into the backyard," he warns. “Often times, the current owner didn’t even know it was there.”
Reach Heather at heathergreenwooddavis@yahoo.com.

…Cookie

Thanks for very informative article.

[mkyriacou (Mario Kyriacou, CHI)]

Glad you like it Ehsan!!!

[dstjacques (Darren St.jacques, C.M.I., RHI)]

@Raymond E. Wand

Never ever have seen black sheathed Alu. wiring. Only green or silver sheathing.

As to arsenic in horse hair insulation, never heard of that either, and cannot find any reference to confirm. Where is that info about horse hair and arsenic from?

Cheers,

Come on Raymond, don’t piss on peoples parades!
If you want to question someones information, do it privately, yes?

[sbutts (Steven Butts, CD)]

@dstjacques

Come on Raymond, don’t piss on peoples parades!
If you want to question someones information, do it privately, yes?

Hey Darren, I wouldn’t even worry about what he writes in here. Mario never even said anything about arsenic in horsehair insulation…he mentioned arsenic in horsehair used to bond plaster so it seems Ray still can’t get anything straight.

[mkyriacou (Mario Kyriacou, CHI)]

Darren and Steve, Thank You!

BTW I just did 4 hours of [exhausting] filming an upcoming Home Inspection series…I will keep you guys posted…Oh I allmost forgot, and a home inspection on a New Home this morning! What a day!

[mkyriacou (Mario Kyriacou, CHI)]

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[mkyriacou (Mario Kyriacou, CHI)]

@Romanian Asshole

In Romania there are lots and lots of old homes and old people, and too many children without parents.

The “Romanian A$shole” has been identified as RAYMOND WAND OF CALEDON, ONTARIO, CANADA

I will provide a link to his website if he continues this BS.
Here is the link to his website, you can all decide if you want a gooffy guy like this to inspect your next property.
http://www.raymondwand.ca/leftframe.htm

[mkyriacou (Mario Kyriacou, CHI)]

@Romanian Asshole

A fellow Romanian can be found at http://www.360degreeshomeinspections.com

The “Romanian A$shole” has been identified as RAYMOND WAND OF CALEDON, ONTARIO, CANADA

I will provide a link to his website if he continues this BS.
Here is the link to his website, you can all decide if you want a gooffy guy like this to inspect your next property.
http://www.raymondwand.ca/leftframe.htm

[mkyriacou (Mario Kyriacou, CHI)]

@Romanian Asshole

Lock your doors and windows as we do in Romania the Gypsies are on the loose over here. http://www.360degreeshomeinspections.com

The “Romanian A$shole” has been identified as RAYMOND WAND OF CALEDON, ONTARIO, CANADA

I will provide a link to his website if he continues this BS.
Here is the link to his website, you can all decide if you want a gooffy guy like this to inspect your next property.
http://www.raymondwand.ca/leftframe.htm

Raymond Wand Home Inspection Service
Since 1991
519-942-9496

About RWHIS

http://www.raymondwand.ca/jpg/ray.jpg

Raymond Wand provides professional residential inspection services to buyers and sellers throughout Caledon, Wellington, Halton, Dufferin, and Peel Counties in Ontario, Canada.

As the principal inspector, Raymond has earned his reputation as a professional in the home inspection field by providing effective quality service. Raymond has conducted over two-thousand inspections for satisfied clients from Canada, including some of Canada’s top CEO’s, as well as corporate and private relocations for clients from the U.S.A., England, Germany, and France. The company has been operating full time locally since 1991. At RWHIS, business is derived exclusively from reputation, referrals and repeat clients.
QUALITY, SERVICE, ETHICS AND INTEGRITY
Raymond has a background in building and property management as well as construction and repair. He has extensively renovated several of his own homes, including the historic 1849 stone-grist mill in Hillsburgh, Ontario. Currently he owns a picturesque, forty-acre farm located on Shaws Creek in Alton and has lived in the area for over 20 years,experience and local knowledge that have helped make RWHIS the preferred choice amongst astute clients.
It has often been said the quality of any company can best be judged by the quality of its people. Raymond will gladly be judged by the quality of his service.
C****AVEAT EMPTOR
It is your right to know about the condition of a property you are about to purchase.
Consider making a home inspection a pre-condition of your Offer To Purchase.
Alternatively if you are about to sell, consider a pre-listing inspection.
ETHICS
[size=3]• Raymond does not give or solicit referral fees of any kind •
• Concentrating on one inspection at a time •
• Pride in the accuracy of each inspection •
• Prompt, courteous, honest, and reliable service •• Focus on quality not quantity •[/size]

And I am always on time!

[mkyriacou (Mario Kyriacou, CHI)]

@Romanian Asshole

Lock your doors and windows as we do in Romania the Gypsies are on the loose over here. http://www.360degreeshomeinspections.com

The “Romanian A$shole” has been identified as RAYMOND WAND OF CALEDON, ONTARIO, CANADA
He has been expelled from NACHI for ethics violations.
Here is the link to his website, you can all decide if you want a gooffy guy like this to inspect your next property.
http://www.raymondwand.ca/leftframe.htm

Raymond Wand Home Inspection Service
Since 1991
519-942-9496

About RWHIS

http://www.raymondwand.ca/jpg/ray.jpg

Raymond Wand provides professional residential inspection services to buyers and sellers throughout Caledon, Wellington, Halton, Dufferin, and Peel Counties in Ontario, Canada.

As the principal inspector, Raymond has earned his reputation as a professional in the home inspection field by providing effective quality service. Raymond has conducted over two-thousand inspections for satisfied clients from Canada, including some of Canada’s top CEO’s, as well as corporate and private relocations for clients from the U.S.A., England, Germany, and France. The company has been operating full time locally since 1991. At RWHIS, business is derived exclusively from reputation, referrals and repeat clients.
QUALITY, SERVICE, ETHICS AND INTEGRITY
Raymond has a background in building and property management as well as construction and repair. He has extensively renovated several of his own homes, including the historic 1849 stone-grist mill in Hillsburgh, Ontario. Currently he owns a picturesque, forty-acre farm located on Shaws Creek in Alton and has lived in the area for over 20 years,experience and local knowledge that have helped make RWHIS the preferred choice amongst astute clients.
It has often been said the quality of any company can best be judged by the quality of its people. Raymond will gladly be judged by the quality of his service.
C****AVEAT EMPTOR
It is your right to know about the condition of a property you are about to purchase.
Consider making a home inspection a pre-condition of your Offer To Purchase.
Alternatively if you are about to sell, consider a pre-listing inspection.
ETHICS [size=3]• Raymond does not give or solicit referral fees of any kind •
• Concentrating on one inspection at a time •
• Pride in the accuracy of each inspection •
• Prompt, courteous, honest, and reliable service •• Focus on quality not quantity •[/size] And I am always on time!

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[mkyriacou (Mario Kyriacou, CHI)]

[quote=Romanian Asshole]
Lock your doors and windows as we do in Romania the Gypsies are on the loose over here.

The “Romanian A$shole” has been identified as RAYMOND WAND OF CALEDON, ONTARIO, CANADA
He has been expelled from NACHI for ethics violations.
Here is the link to his website, you can all decide if you want a gooffy guy like this to inspect your next property.
http://www.raymondwand.ca/leftframe.htm

Raymond Wand Home Inspection Service
Since 1991
519-942-9496

About RWHIS

http://www.raymondwand.ca/jpg/ray.jpg

Raymond Wand provides professional residential inspection services to buyers and sellers throughout Caledon, Wellington, Halton, Dufferin, and Peel Counties in Ontario, Canada.

As the principal inspector, Raymond has earned his reputation as a professional in the home inspection field by providing effective quality service. Raymond has conducted over two-thousand inspections for satisfied clients from Canada, including some of Canada’s top CEO’s, as well as corporate and private relocations for clients from the U.S.A., England, Germany, and France. The company has been operating full time locally since 1991. At RWHIS, business is derived exclusively from reputation, referrals and repeat clients.
QUALITY, SERVICE, ETHICS AND INTEGRITY
Raymond has a background in building and property management as well as construction and repair. He has extensively renovated several of his own homes, including the historic 1849 stone-grist mill in Hillsburgh, Ontario. Currently he owns a picturesque, forty-acre farm located on Shaws Creek in Alton and has lived in the area for over 20 years,experience and local knowledge that have helped make RWHIS the preferred choice amongst astute clients.
It has often been said the quality of any company can best be judged by the quality of its people. Raymond will gladly be judged by the quality of his service.
C****AVEAT EMPTOR
It is your right to know about the condition of a property you are about to purchase.
Consider making a home inspection a pre-condition of your Offer To Purchase.
Alternatively if you are about to sell, consider a pre-listing inspection.
ETHICS [size=3]• Raymond does not give or solicit referral fees of any kind •
• Concentrating on one inspection at a time •
• Pride in the accuracy of each inspection •
• Prompt, courteous, honest, and reliable service •• Focus on quality not quantity •[/size] And I am always on time!

[mkyriacou (Mario Kyriacou, CHI)]

Reposted from another forum.

My real name is Raymond Wand, from Home Inspection Services. I give Blow Jobs to any dissatisfied clients. I also offer baby sitting services [boy’s only] to all clients.

I have been expelled from NACHI, ASHI and OAHI for ethics violations. I serve on the Heritage Committee of the Town of Caledon [my days are numbered with the town] as of today. I pray that Mario doesn’t follow through with his promise and e-mail the committee. There is a women on the committee that I like, and she has a small child [a boy] and I’m hoping that they will live with me on my farm.

I would like to apologize to all NACHI members for my recent and past posts on this MB.
I promise it will not happen again. Please forgive me.

Regards

Raymond Wand
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Since 1991
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