Out of date, I know as I used to have that one.
Good reference but be careful.
Code is not dependant upon which is current…
Code is dependent upon which is current in your market area…
Ok Joe then where is the aforementioned code check currently current?:roll:
30 amp wire:
I could put a #12awg on a 60 amp breaker using the below reference.
440.22
**(A) Rating or Setting for Individual Motor-
**
**Compressor. **
The motor-compressor branch-circuit shortcircuit
and ground-fault protective device shall be capable
of carrying the starting current of the motor. A protective
device having a rating or setting not exceeding 175 percent
of the motor-compressor rated-load current or branchcircuit
selection current, whichever is greater, shall be permitted,
provided that, where the protection specified is not
sufficient for the starting current of the motor, the rating or
setting shall be permitted to be increased but shall not exceed
225 percent of the motor rated-load current or branchcircuit
selection current, whichever is greater.
*Exception: The rating of the branch-circuit short-circuit
*
and ground-fault protective device shall not be required to
be less than 15 amperes.
Was just information al reference for the usual HOME INSPECTOR…not for electricians…lol…
Yep…Mike…somewhere in the boards I did a long explanation of that and gave some calcs samples as well…not sure where I stuck them now…lol
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The issue Dan posted that I commented on was an installation that did not appear to comply with the equipment label. He described it as a 30A wire when the listed minimum circuit ampacity on the nameplate was 40A.
Normally an HI will think of #10 = 30A … but if it’s typical #10 Cu wire fished through conduit (not a cable) for an AC circuit it would have an ampacity of 40A (temperature derating and voltage drop aside).
JMO & 2-nickels …
Bump
Thx for the bump.
I don’t plan on using this too much, since it address 2000 IRC and at best 2002 NEC, but it’s nice to have a simple to decide I like it. I might run out and get the book for some nice relaxing reading. Relaxing compared to the 2006 IRC I’ve been thumbing through for the last week.
What a geek!
tom
lol…many are still in the 2002 cycle…hell VA just adopted it for the NEC
[quote=pabernathy]
Joe…Dude…reduce the text fella…no one can read that !
Ok…anyway I can’t begin to read that in that size so I will give you my jargon on it.
The nameplate ratings should already be sized and calculated for this application. Now the electrician and quote CODE guy who said the recepts within the bathroom did not need to be GFCI is on CRACK…now if the central vac is plugged into the recept…then may fly because it is dedicated but if the plug has nothing in it and it sitting open…it better be GFCI.
IN previous codes only the counter GFCI was needed but slowly as 210.8(A)(1) evolved the term ALL started to become the prevailing issue as simply put GFCI do save lives.
Now…sometimes It really bothers me when even the clear cut rulings are ignored in your case with the electrician…Now…sure they could argue the recept. is dedicated for the central vac…ok who puts that in a bathroom…anyway…if you follow the article it says ALL have to be GFCI…so now lets look at the exceptions…
Oh wait…their isnt one under this application for Bathrooms…anyway…just foolish to put a recept in a bathroom and not make it GFCI…just not good wiring practice in my opinion.
I hope that this helps.
The International Residential Code of One & Two Family Dwellings
E3603.4 Bathroom branch circuits.
A minimum of one 20-ampere branch circuit shall be provided to supply the bathroom receptacle outlet(s). Such circuits shall have no other outlets.
Exception: Where the 20-ampere circuit supplies a single bathroom, outlets for other equipment within the same bathroom shall be permitted to be supplied in accordance with Section E3602.
E3801.6 Bathroom.
At least one wall receptacle outlet shall be installed in bathrooms and such outlet shall be located within 36 inches (914 mm) of the outside edge of each lavatory basin. The receptacle outlet shall be located on a wall that is adjacent to the lavatory basin location. Receptacle outlets shall not be installed in a face-up position in the work surfaces or countertops in a bathroom basin location.
E3802
GROUND-FAULT AND ARC-FAULT CIRCUIT-INTERRUPTER PROTECTION
E3802.1 Bathroom receptacles.
All 125-volt, single-phase, 15- and 20-ampere receptacles installed in bathrooms shall have ground-fault circuit-interrupter protection for personnel.
E3803
LIGHTING OUTLETS
E3803.1 General.
Lighting outlets shall be provided in accordance with Sections E3803.2 through E3803.4.
E3803.2 Habitable rooms.
At least one wall switch-controlled lighting outlet shall be installed in every habitable room and bathroom.
The International Plumbing Code
[PM] 1203.1.4 Receptacles.
Every habitable space in a dwelling shall be provided with at least two separate and remote receptacle outlets. Every laundry area shall be provided with at least one grounding-type receptacle outlet or a receptacle outlet with ground fault circuit interrupter protection. Every bathroom shall contain at least one receptacle outlet. Any new bathroom receptacle outlet shall have ground fault circuit interrupter protection.
The International Property maintenance Code
05.2 Receptacles.
Every habitable space in a dwelling shall contain at least two separate and remote receptacle outlets. Every laundry area shall contain at least one grounded-type receptacle or a receptacle with a ground fault circuit interrupter. Every bathroom shall contain at least one receptacle. Any new bathroom receptacle outlet shall have ground fault circuit interrupter protection.
From Code Check
BATHROOMS:
Receptacle on wall {<=3ft.} from basin . . . . . . .[210-52d] {210.52D}
GFCI protection all bath receptacles . . . . . . . .[210-8a1] {210.8A1}
Bath receptacles on separate 20-amp circuit . . . . . .[210-11c3] {210.11C3}
Primary light energy efficient {not incandescent] . . . .[energy] {energy}
Space heaters–max. watts on general-purpose circuit:
15-amp circuit 900W, 20-amp circuit 1200W . . . …[210-23a] {210.23A2}
Once again, I hope that this helps.