Originally Posted By: mboyett
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http://www.nachi.org/bbsystem/usrimages/S/Subpanel1.jpg ]
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Originally Posted By: bbadger
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It sure looks like it was designed for disabled access.
Nothing wrong per the NEC.
Originally Posted By: escanlan
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Maybe it was installed by a vertically challenged person with no ladder!
Originally Posted By: mboyett
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| bbadger wrote: |
| It sure looks like it was designed for disabled access. |
I know & that crossed my mind so I looked for other ADA compliancy. There were non-compliant door thresholds, no handicapped accessories in the baths, no ramps for wheelchairs, etc, etc. Besides, it was a brand new tract home, mid priced, no special features, Realtor said other homes in the subdivision constructed the same way. Got me 
Originally Posted By: mboyett
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| escanlan wrote: |
| Maybe it was installed by a vertically challenged person with no ladder!   |
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Originally Posted By: pdacey
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Does the feed from the SE panel come from the slab or from above? If from the slab, maybe someone didn’t leave enough slack in the line to have the panel at a normal height.
Originally Posted By: mboyett
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: On closer review, the SE wires do come from overhead thru the attic, so that’s probably not the cause after all. [ Image: http://www.nachi.org/bbsystem/usrimages/S/Subpanel_2.jpg ]
The Realtor that was there with his buyer said other homes in the area were like that but I didn’t go look, maybe they were, maybe not.
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Originally Posted By: jsieg
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ADA or not doesn’t code say 48" from the floor to the top of the main service pannel???
I'm not sure can someone inform me please!
Originally Posted By: bbadger
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| jsieg wrote: |
| ADA or not doesn't code say 48" from the floor to the top of the main service pannel???
I'm not sure can someone inform me please! |
As far as the NEC concerned no minimum height and the maximum height of any breaker handle is 6' - 7"
There is an one type of home there is minimum height for the service disconnect and that is 24" for mobile homes
Originally Posted By: jlybolt
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From a safety point of view, I wouldn’t consider getting down on my knees to work on the panel very safe. I think I would at least mention in my report that panels are not usually installed this low.
Just my 2 cents.
Originally Posted By: mboyett
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Maybe I should have put something in the report about it but I didn’t. My client and I did discuss it verbally at least so he knows that it is very low compared to other installations but not necessarily wrong.
Originally Posted By: bsmith
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Michael-
You raised some interesting points. Where can I get a copy of the ADA regs?
Originally Posted By: gbeaumont
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Hi Bill,
here is a link to the ADA website covering accessable design:
http://www.usdoj.gov/crt/ada/stdspdf.htm
Regards
Gerry
Originally Posted By: mboyett
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Thanks Gerry, I don’t have much need for ADA compliance documents since I don’t do commercial/industrial construction management anymore. You can see from that link the ADA requirements are quite complex.
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Originally Posted By: gbeaumont
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Hi to all,
Ooops, sorry posted the wrong link, and the one I saved is now a dead HUD link, I'll go find where they hid it and post it later.
Regards
Gerry
Originally Posted By: mboyett
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The link you posted works fine for me. It says “ADA STANDARDS FOR ACCESSIBLE DESIGN” and has html and pdf files of the ADA Standards.
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Originally Posted By: gbeaumont
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Hi to all,
here is a link to the HUD document I lost last night:
http://www.huduser.org/Publications/PDF/FAIRHOUSING/fairfull.pdf
Be aware this file is 26,000 kb 330 odd pages so it will take a while especially on dial up.
Interestingly, distribution panels a re not covere by these regulations as they are not concidered to be in regular use, while I am thinking about it here is a good image from the regulation.
Regards
Gerry
Originally Posted By: dbowers
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Michael -
As you and everyone else realizes - the panel appears to be non-compliant. In short it appears to have been installed wrong. At that point the only question is do you report on it or not. Verbally telling someone without putting it in writing doesn't mean squat if there was ever a dispute that ends up in court. In real estate transactions the laws say - if it isn't in writing, it never happened. Just food for thought.
Originally Posted By: mboyett
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Dan,
Sorry, I have to disagree. What standard, rule or code do you think it is non-compliant to? I haven’t seen anything definitive that says it is not installed properly.
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Originally Posted By: joetedesco
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