# Panel inspection

**URL:** <https://forum.nachi.org/t/panel-inspection/234778>\
**Category:** Electrical Inspections\
**Created:** [October 24, 2023, 12:55am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/panel-inspection/234778 "2023-10-24T00:55:18Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![khouseholder](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/khouseholder/32/301464_2.png) [@khouseholder](https://forum.nachi.org/u/khouseholder)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 12:55am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/panel-inspection/234778/1 "2023-10-24T00:55:18Z")

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Good evening all. I have a question regarding breaker panel inspections.

I know it is not required to remove the dead front of the panel. But, in my situation the inspector did, and provided a sole image of the dead front removed. Also noting “breaker panel and wiring were found in overall good order”.

Since arriving in Florida today (cross country move), and removing the panel cover (to wire a 50A receptacle for my rv that I’ll be living in while renovating), I’ve found several issues that should have been left out. In my opinion. There is a 70A with 8AWG, multiple double tapped neutrals, neutrals that bypass the bus bar and tap in with the non-anti-oxidized aluminum main neutral. I’m sure that I will come across many more. This was simply a “visual” look into the main panel. I was adding the 50amp breaker to the sub panel and questioned the 8 gauge wire to the main lugs from a 70amp sub panel breaker.

My question here I guess is, should I even bother contacting the inspection company? The company is InterNachi certified. So I’m quite taken back that these obvious electrical issues were not pointed out.

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**Author:** ![jjonas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/jjonas/32/301755_2.png) [@jjonas](https://forum.nachi.org/u/jjonas)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 1:02am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/panel-inspection/234778/2 "2023-10-24T01:02:48Z")

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> [@khouseholder](#):
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> So I’m quite taken back that these obvious electrical issues were not pointed out.

Begin with sharing your expertise and training, your electricians license number, etc.

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**Author:** ![ruecker](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/ruecker/32/357170_2.png) [@ruecker](https://forum.nachi.org/u/ruecker)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 1:04am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/panel-inspection/234778/3 "2023-10-24T01:04:37Z")

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> [@khouseholder](#):
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> My question here I guess is, should I even bother contacting the inspection company?.

Of course you should. Your inspector should have made it clear that they were available for any questions after the inspection. Reach out with pictures in hand and ask for an explanation.

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**Author:** ![ccurrins](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/ccurrins/32/225758_2.png) [@ccurrins](https://forum.nachi.org/u/ccurrins)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 1:19am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/panel-inspection/234778/4 "2023-10-24T01:19:01Z")

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> [@khouseholder](#):
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> My question here I guess is, should I even bother contacting the inspection company? The company is InterNachi certified

For sure. Contact him by phone and let him know what you found. And let him provide his explanation. And as far as the company being InterNachi Certified…IMO the certified part is a little deceiving. That basically means the inspector, or the owner of the inspection company he works for, is a member of InterNachi.

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**Author:** ![khouseholder](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/khouseholder/32/301464_2.png) [@khouseholder](https://forum.nachi.org/u/khouseholder)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 1:32am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/panel-inspection/234778/5 "2023-10-24T01:32:32Z")

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First of all why do I need to begin with that? Everything I outlined is a valid concern, is it not?

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**Author:** ![khouseholder](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/khouseholder/32/301464_2.png) [@khouseholder](https://forum.nachi.org/u/khouseholder)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 1:34am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/panel-inspection/234778/6 "2023-10-24T01:34:45Z")

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Fair point there. I was simply stating that to provide that information.

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**Author:** ![jspencer](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/jspencer/32/172267_2.png) [@jspencer](https://forum.nachi.org/u/jspencer)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 1:36am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/panel-inspection/234778/7 "2023-10-24T01:36:38Z")

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Can you post a copy of that section of the inspection report.

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**Author:** ![jjonas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/jjonas/32/301755_2.png) [@jjonas](https://forum.nachi.org/u/jjonas)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 1:45am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/panel-inspection/234778/8 "2023-10-24T01:45:14Z")

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> [@khouseholder](#):
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> why do I need to begin with that?

**Because…**

> [@khouseholder](#):
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> In my opinion.

How do we know “your opinion” is valid?  
Just in your initial post, I see issues that have me question the validity of your observations.

**Also…**

> [@khouseholder](#):
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> Since arriving in Florida today (cross country move),

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**Author:** ![khouseholder](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/khouseholder/32/301464_2.png) [@khouseholder](https://forum.nachi.org/u/khouseholder)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 1:55am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/panel-inspection/234778/9 "2023-10-24T01:55:23Z")

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Regardless of the fact that I typed “In my opinion.” That doesn’t change the fact that things are correct or they aren’t. How are my issues valid? Are the things I outlined correct or not? Are double lugged neutrals allowed? Is 8awg allowed for a 70 amp breaker? in any situation? I do know that 6awg is debatable based on numerous factors, but pretty sure 8 is a definite no. So regardless of my knowledge, are these points valid or not?

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**Author:** ![bcawhern1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/bcawhern1/32/408713_2.png) [@bcawhern1](https://forum.nachi.org/u/bcawhern1)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 2:00am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/panel-inspection/234778/10 "2023-10-24T02:00:06Z")

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I would reach out to the inspector with any concerns you may have. Also, did you sign an inspection agreement? Did it include a standards of practice or scope of work? Be sure to review the electrical section of that.

One other question, how long was it between the inspection and you taking occupancy?

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**Author:** ![ruecker](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/ruecker/32/357170_2.png) [@ruecker](https://forum.nachi.org/u/ruecker)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 2:02am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/panel-inspection/234778/11 "2023-10-24T02:02:00Z")

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> [@khouseholder](#):
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> So regardless of my knowledge, are these points valid or not?.

Yes, they are. And you should definitely follow up with your inspector. They are the only ones that were there and can comment on what they saw.

If you have pictures to share, some of us may be able to give you our opinion on what is going on.

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**Author:** ![khouseholder](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/khouseholder/32/301464_2.png) [@khouseholder](https://forum.nachi.org/u/khouseholder)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 2:04am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/panel-inspection/234778/12 "2023-10-24T02:04:35Z")

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I do, but the forum is limiting as a “new user”, and not allowing me to upload them. I would love to provide them.

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**Author:** ![ruecker](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/ruecker/32/357170_2.png) [@ruecker](https://forum.nachi.org/u/ruecker)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 2:07am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/panel-inspection/234778/13 "2023-10-24T02:07:35Z")

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> [@khouseholder](#):
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> I do, but the forum is limiting as a “new user”, and not allowing me to upload them…

Email to [infotecinspection@gmail.com](mailto:infotecinspection@gmail.com) and I will post them for you.

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**Author:** ![khouseholder](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/khouseholder/32/301464_2.png) [@khouseholder](https://forum.nachi.org/u/khouseholder)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 2:08am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/panel-inspection/234778/14 "2023-10-24T02:08:48Z")

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I just tried. But as a new member to the forum, I am restricted from posting images.

6.3 MAIN DISTRIBUTION PANEL(S)  
INSPECTED:  
The breaker panel and the panel wiring were found to be in overall good order, other than conditions noted.

(2) images. One with dead front on, second with it off.

6.4 Circuit Breakers  
INSPECTED:

That is all that was noted regarding the panel. There are other electrical issues elsewhere that followed.

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**Author:** ![khouseholder](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/khouseholder/32/301464_2.png) [@khouseholder](https://forum.nachi.org/u/khouseholder)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 2:13am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/panel-inspection/234778/15 "2023-10-24T02:13:26Z")

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done.

have to have 10 characters.

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**Author:** ![khouseholder](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/khouseholder/32/301464_2.png) [@khouseholder](https://forum.nachi.org/u/khouseholder)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 2:15am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/panel-inspection/234778/16 "2023-10-24T02:15:14Z")

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Good question. Inspection was 9/12. Home has been unoccupied since May.

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**Author:** ![ruecker](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/ruecker/32/357170_2.png) [@ruecker](https://forum.nachi.org/u/ruecker)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 2:16am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/panel-inspection/234778/17 "2023-10-24T02:16:08Z")

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> [@khouseholder](#):
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> done…

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/original/4X/f/6/d/f6dda56044319e8e75db7a891a53d9fff26f2904.jpeg)

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/original/4X/4/3/b/43bb07392fc47bad461c64ca52dcc795dde8ae5e.jpeg)

 ![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/original/4X/3/9/0/390cb7c697262fc702139af47299cd4ffc77d6a7.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![bcawhern1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/bcawhern1/32/408713_2.png) [@bcawhern1](https://forum.nachi.org/u/bcawhern1)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 2:17am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/panel-inspection/234778/18 "2023-10-24T02:17:13Z")

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Are you near the coast or coastal area?

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**Author:** ![khouseholder](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/khouseholder/32/301464_2.png) [@khouseholder](https://forum.nachi.org/u/khouseholder)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 2:19am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/panel-inspection/234778/19 "2023-10-24T02:19:44Z")

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East Brandon.

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**Author:** ![ccurrins](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/user_avatar/forum.nachi.org/ccurrins/32/225758_2.png) [@ccurrins](https://forum.nachi.org/u/ccurrins)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2023, 2:20am UTC](https://forum.nachi.org/t/panel-inspection/234778/20 "2023-10-24T02:20:47Z")

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![image](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/internachi/original/4X/4/0/7/4071345273b650fd826781c1d305b09c53b453dc.jpeg)  
He definitely missed that one. Staring you right in the face.

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